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Shane Pokorney is the Equipment Manager at Colbert Hills Golf Course in Manhattan, Kansas. Shane started at Colbert Hills as a Kansas State student, working on the crew for beer money, and moved into the shop for a pay bump. A self-taught (thanks, Google!) mechanic with a degree in wildlife management, Shane discovered he liked hunting for fun more than for work and headed back to Colbert Hills. Shane tells us about the bridge crane he fabricated and gets into some chainsaw modification talk. An archery hunter, fisherman, and woodworker in his free time, Shane and his wife love to travel and are halfway to their goal of visiting all the national parks. Shane reminds us of the importance of doing things right the first time and communicates the value of attending the GCSAA Conference and Trade Show (if you don’t have the means to get there, be sure and apply for the Melrose EM Experience just like Shane did).

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Trent Manning: 
welcome to the reel turf techs podcast for the technician that wants to get reel follow along. As we talk to industry professionals and address hot topics that we all face along the way we’ll learn tips and tricks. I’m your host, Trent. Manning let’s have some Welcome to the real turf tax podcast, episode 60. Today, we’re talking to Shane Pokorny equipment manager at Colbert Hills. Golf course and Manhattan, Kansas. Cobra Hills is a 27 hole public course. Shane is the loan technician in the shop. He has Toro and Deere equipment. Foley bed, knife, grinder, and sip real grounder. Let’s talk to Shane. Welcome Shane to the real turf techs podcast.

Shane Pokorney: 
Hey, thanks for having me on.

Trent Manning: 
Yes, sir. I’m glad. Glad you’re here. Let’s get into it. Tell us how you got into the turf industry.

Shane Pokorney: 
So, uh, started going to Kansas state university in 2014 and I needed a job mainly for the beer money, but also for the rent. so I started working at the golf course of Manhattan Colbert Hills and, uh, was on the maintenance crew for about a year. The, current mechanic graduated then and they were looking for somebody didn’t have many options. So they asked if I wanted to try it. They knew I worked on vehicles and whatnot, and that was about it, not much mechanical background, but all I knew it was a bit of a pay increase. So I figured I’d give it a try and, uh, ended up liking it. You know, I was completely self-taught. Google was kind of my best friend there. So, just a lot of trial and error, screwing things up and learning. so I did that for a few years and I graduated. My degree was actually wildlife management. So I went and worked at a deer hunting ranch in Missouri for about six months and it was long hours and I got burnt out pretty quickly. So I called up the super at Colbert Hills and asked if I could come back and she had me back, thankfully. So that was in 2017. And ever since then, it’s just been. A steady climb and learning every day and really enjoying it. So I don’t think I’m going anywhere anytime soon.

Trent Manning: 
That’s awesome. I hope, I hope not because, uh, the industry needs people like us.

Shane Pokorney: 
Yeah.

Trent Manning: 
What burnt you out on the hunting ranch?

Shane Pokorney: 
So I was guiding, you know, kind of on-call up to seven days a week. And, uh, you know, there were some weeks we’d, we’d put in 70 hours and the pay wasn’t that great. And the job was a lot of fun, but the hours were, were very demanding. And as much as I like to hunt personally, kind of took that away from me. So I decided this was a better.

Trent Manning: 
Railroad route because now you can probably actually hunt.

Shane Pokorney: 
Yeah. Yeah. It’s I have pretty flexible hours here at the golf course, and I spend a lot of time in the tree stand for.

Trent Manning: 
Yeah. No, that was awesome. That was really, really good. Tell the listeners, do you relief grind?

Shane Pokorney: 
I do not, you know, I tried it, I D I wanted to learn the process. So I, I learned the process and I’ve never done it since. Um, the more and more I learned, the more I want to try it. So I think it’s probably in my near future, you know, learn some of the benefits of it and everything. It sounds like it’s good route to go.

Trent Manning: 
Yeah. And the WhatsApp group chat. He thinks it’s helps on the 14 bladed reels and I’ve never really done it. And on Granger reels, I mean, I guess I’ve tried it, but it didn’t like my standard set up. So I’m trying it this year.

Shane Pokorney: 
I do have 14 blade reels. So yeah. Might look into that.

Trent Manning: 
Well, I mean, it’s going to be tight getting in there and that

Shane Pokorney: 
Yeah, I figured as much.

Trent Manning: 
depends on how much they’re war, I guess, trying to

Shane Pokorney: 
Yeah, I know. I got some old John Deere, cutting units that are the heavy duty style reels and the material is so thick on those I’ve thought for years that they could use a relief and you know, I’ve just never dove into it. So

Trent Manning: 
Yeah. Yeah. Yep. Let us know how it turns out.

Shane Pokorney: 
I will.

Trent Manning: 
Tell us something you fabricated lately.

Shane Pokorney: 
So not my latest project, but one that I’m more proud of was, uh, a shared it with you. But that bridge crane that I built over my grinders, You know, I got tired of lifting and sore back every day, grinding reels. I started getting quotes for these bridge cranes and they were, you know, anywhere from 10 to $15,000 and we couldn’t spend that much. So I just went ahead and build it all from. Uh, not scrap metal, but just, uh, drew the plans up and bought all the metal and, and welded it all, fabricated it all ourselves. And, uh, it turned out really well and it makes me not dread grinding reels anymore. Especially those fairway units.

Trent Manning: 
Right, right. No, that’s awesome. And I appreciate you sharing that information

Shane Pokorney: 
Oh yeah, no, no problems. I check it out.

Trent Manning: 
The, the main reason I didn’t build my own. I guess there’s two reasons, time and money. Right. That’s what it all boils down to.

Shane Pokorney: 
Yeah. See, I got a lot of time in the winter, so that’s usually I call it my arts and crafts time. That’s swelling and fabrication. So I like to do that in the winter time. And, uh, yeah, it’s a lot of fun.

Trent Manning: 
Yeah, Yeah. And not that I don’t enjoy it, but. I don’t have that much of

Shane Pokorney: 
no, I understand. And another, another thing around here is, you know, if it’s too much, you don’t really have an option, you know, if you want it, you gotta make it work for less money. So,

Trent Manning: 
Well, and yeah. so that was my other thing is we had the money. So why not this bot? And I think it took a, we had an installed on a day and it was.

Shane Pokorney: 
mine was a several month process.

Trent Manning: 
Yeah. it was, I think, nine grand or something like that. And it’s 25 by 30 and I love it. That’s great.

Shane Pokorney: 
Yeah.

Trent Manning: 
Yeah. It department. Yeah, it turned out really, really good. What’s your favorite tool?

Shane Pokorney: 
So I had a hard time with this question because I’m definitely a tool junkie. I love all my tools, but, uh, if I had to pick a couple, I’d say a welder and torch for sure. I had to teach myself how to use both of those. So I’ve been learning throughout the years and get better and better. But, uh, you know, you hear the old saying can’t be stuck if it’s liquid. So I do love using the torch, maybe a little too much at times. other than those, uh, also love chainsaws, love running them, working on them. It’s just a lot of fun. So have to say a chain saw as well.

Trent Manning: 
No, that’s a good one. Have you a hot routed? Any Chinese house?

Shane Pokorney: 
No, no. I’ve watched some videos. I haven’t got that ballsy with it yet. I, uh, I do know that. Steals recommended bar sizes, merely a recommendation. Cause I got a 42 inch bar on a saw that is maybe not equipped for it, but it,

Trent Manning: 
Yeah, no, that was awesome. So my dad I’ll tell you a quick story. He had a steel three, Ms. Three 10, and of course it was my fault, but he went to the parts store to buy Opti two to cycle and they sold him Opti. Fuel stabilizer. So he mixed that with his gasoline. And I believe if I remember correctly that a steel chain saw will run through one tank of fuel with fuel stabilizer in it. before it burns up.

Shane Pokorney: 
Oh, wow.

Trent Manning: 
So anyway, he burned his all up and, you know, he brings it to me. He’s like, it’s not running. So. I pull the muffler off. I’m like, man, you toasted this thing, you put straight gas. Oh no. I use that. All you got, you told me about, I stole I’m using. So you got the all, so he shows me, Yeah. it feels stabilizer that he’s using. So anyway, the two 90, the three, 10, and the three 90 are all the same saw, but the cylinders different, bigger. So.

Shane Pokorney: 
Yeah. Yeah.

Trent Manning: 
I bought a piston cylinder for a three 90 and put it on there. And then, like you were saying, I don’t remember if it’s like the Arbor site.com or something like that. I started doing a little research and if you drill a three eights hole in the muffler and then retune the carburetor, it burns about twice as much gas, but it will rip.

Shane Pokorney: 
Yeah. Yeah. I’ve, uh, I’ve played around with those aftermarket mufflers and, you know, retuning the carbs. I got, uh, a self-adjusting carb one that the M tronics saw, but yeah, there are a lot of fun.

Trent Manning: 
Yeah. Yeah. It’s, there’s a lot of fun. So I’ll give it back to dad and he used it and he says that thing cut better than it did when it was new. I said, well, I hope so because it’s new now.

Shane Pokorney: 
Yeah. A little more

Trent Manning: 
Yeah. And I modified it a little bit. Definitely. Uh, here in protections required to.

Shane Pokorney: 
Oh, yeah. Yeah. I will not cut without it nowadays.

Trent Manning: 
What’d you say I’ll just get I’m getting.

Shane Pokorney: 
Yeah. I don’t know why it took me that long to learn, you know, I’m only 28 now, but it seems like just a few years ago, I didn’t ever worried about hearing protection, eye protection, but now it’s a religion.

Trent Manning: 
Yeah. Yep. Well, good. Good for you too. What do you do to relax or find your bag?

Shane Pokorney: 
So I don’t do much relaxing. I do have a lot of days off, but, um, I’m always doing something, whether it’s, archery hunting, fishing, I do a lot of woodworking as well. I like to mill my own wood with a chainsaw attachment and then build furniture and sell some of it. So that keeps me pretty busy.

Trent Manning: 
Awesome. Yeah. Yeah.

Shane Pokorney: 
But, uh, talking about the work-life balance, my wife has a bit of a traveling problem. So we go on a lot of travels together. We’re trying to visit all the national parks and we’re about halfway. So

Trent Manning: 
Wow. That’s awesome though. That’s a good goal.

Shane Pokorney: 
yeah.

Trent Manning: 
Yeah, that is what’s one of the strangest things you’ve seen.

Shane Pokorney: 
So last year we had something weird happened. Um, a few days in a row. These dead skunks kept appearing on our fairways in the mornings. So the guys would come in and be like, yeah, we found three more Scouts. Well, I think it ended up being seven or eight of them, but we don’t know if somebody was shooting him or what was going on out there, but it seemed pretty weird.

Trent Manning: 
You never found out where they were coming.

Shane Pokorney: 
we did it, they definitely had some injuries that looked like it could been a little air rifle or something, but, uh, luckily they either killed them all, but they stopped showing up.

Trent Manning: 
Okay, the problem stopped. So

Shane Pokorney: 
yeah.

Trent Manning: 
time to move over that that’s a good one. What’s one of your pet peeves around the shop.

Shane Pokorney: 
So I don’t really have a lot that bothers me. I’m pretty easy going and don’t get mad at anything. I just don’t really see a point in it. But, obviously the, the usual things that dirty equipment people not taking care of equipment, those sorts of things, but, uh, yeah, pretty easy going, not a lot of pet views really.

Trent Manning: 
Yeah. well, That’s good. And that’s, that’s a good philosophy. And I’ve wish I could lay back and take it easy. Sometimes get too fired up, but we had a guy today. Walking greens mower. He’d washed it up. He’s driving it into the shop so we can check it out. And we’re also, we’re rebuilding our, uh, seven gang tore, a pool frame. And so one of the cutting units is sitting there and the ground, and he just runs all over it with his walking greens mower. So

Shane Pokorney: 
Yeah.

Trent Manning: 
I didn’t, yell though. I held my breath, counted to three. It’s like, well, what are you

Shane Pokorney: 
lot to make me yell at somebody. I think I’ve had to do it once and nine years here.

Trent Manning: 
Oh, well, that’s awesome. That’s good. And I’ll imagine you get quite a few knuckleheads around there too

Shane Pokorney: 
And we do, you know, it’s, it’s 90% college students that we have working for us. So, you know, they’re, they’re young. They like to drive the mowers fast and they have fun. They don’t think about the maintenance. So yeah, we get plenty of it.

Trent Manning: 
Yep. Do you have a mentor in the end of the.

Shane Pokorney: 
not so much a mentor, but, um, just somebody I look up to and it’s taught me a lot. That’s uh, my boss, Matt Gourlay, he’s, the director of agronomy here at Colbert Hills. Um, now if I ever have any questions, I go to him. So he’s usually either got the answer or he’ll help me find.

Trent Manning: 
Yeah. Yeah. yeah, no, that’s awesome. And I mean, that’s, that’s A mentor too. I mean, maybe he’s not teaching you all the mechanic stuff.

Shane Pokorney: 
Yeah. A lot of the times, you know, we’ll just look at a piece of equipment. Neither one of us really know what’s going on with the issue, but just talking through it really.

Trent Manning: 
Yeah, for sure. I don’t. I tell the story a lot. We had a guy, he was an expert Toro guy when I worked for Jerry Pate. Uh, but I would call him all the time about this problem or that problem. And a lot of times he wouldn’t. I mean, a lot of times he would give me the answer that I needed, but a lot of times he wouldn’t give me the answer I needed, but just like you’re saying, talking to him about it and your brain starts thinking a little bit different and you discover the way to solve the problem on your own.

Shane Pokorney: 
Yep. That’s two sets of eyes can be really.

Trent Manning: 
Yeah. Yeah. That’s always better than once that, for sure. What would be your dream job? Her opportunity.

Shane Pokorney: 
So I joke around with people that I know that, uh, I love to be on a NASCAR pit crew, but that’s just a joke. If I was really to choose one thing that I would do, I would be running a wood shop in Alaska, milling my own wood.

Trent Manning: 
Awesome. Lovely. So cool.

Shane Pokorney: 
Yup. That is my favorite place.

Trent Manning: 
So what kind of mail.

Shane Pokorney: 
So right now I just changed all mill everything, which has its perks, because I can mill as large as I want to essentially. But a bandsaw mill, a portable band saw mill would be the way to go. I think.

Trent Manning: 
Yeah. I had a Wood-Mizer LT 15 at the golf course. I bought it. We had all kinds of trees that we were taken down and they were all Ash trees. And I don’t know if you have you messed with that.

Shane Pokorney: 
I’ve known some ass. Yeah. Yeah. It makes some good.

Trent Manning: 
Yeah. it can make some good stuff, but we were taking down all these ashtrays because the Emerald Ash borer. So if you’re into holes, warm holes into your wood, that was okay, but

Shane Pokorney: 
Yeah. Yeah. You know, a lot of people are nowadays. They love to do that, do the epoxy projects. So I sell a lot of wood with holes that looks all crappy, but they.

Trent Manning: 
Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. The stuff that we were trying to do, we didn’t want the holes in there. So that was a made it tough, but those things are awesome.

Shane Pokorney: 
Yeah. Yeah. There are a lot of fun, you know, I, I, uh, I walked into a saw mill like five years ago, I think. And I never seen one before and I was like, man, that’s so cool. So I’ve just been working my way up to it ever since.

Trent Manning: 
Yeah. Yeah. yeah, yeah. They’re they’re obtainable. I found this one, like Facebook marketplace and it was, it was about half price of a new one.

Shane Pokorney: 
Yeah.

Trent Manning: 
Yeah. I don’t know how old it was. I don’t remember, but it was still in good shape. You know, a lot of people buy those things and think they’re gonna mail the world and then

Shane Pokorney: 
Right.

Trent Manning: 
a month or two, and they’re onto their next. What technician would you like to work with for a day?

Shane Pokorney: 
So I’d have to say Chad Braun. It seems like whenever I reach out to the WhatsApp group or anywhere else, um, he’s always got the brilliant ideas. And he’s already shared with people and they are smart. So, um, I also went to his, uh, little seminar at the industry show in San Diego of is, uh, equipment cleaning procedures. So I came back home and I bought everything on his PowerPoint. And I will say our equipment is looking a lot better here now.

Trent Manning: 
Oh, that’s awesome. That’s so good to hear. Are you doing the wax every couple of weeks?

Shane Pokorney: 
Yeah. So I’ve been, uh, sneaking that in, on rain days with the crew here, having them do that, that shine up all the plastic and rubber parts on the machines and wax and stuff.

Trent Manning: 
That’s awesome. Yeah. I gotta get, I gotta get the crew behind me on that or start doing it. Myself has been, uh, an ongoing battle, like it is for a lot of us,

Shane Pokorney: 
Yup.

Trent Manning: 
but Yeah. honestly, Chad would be at the top of my list.

Shane Pokorney: 
Yeah, it seems like a really smart guy.

Trent Manning: 
Yeah, no, he is. He’s, he’s a genius, but we’re so lucky in this industry that we have some really smart people, uh, like Chad lot Rolan, MacPherson, J R Wilson. I mean, there’s like some really brilliant people and they’re all willing to help you. All I gotta do is pick the phone up and they’ll help me anyway. And I don’t, I think we’re very lucky and fortunate in this industry to have people like that.

Shane Pokorney: 
Yeah, we definitely are. And it is awesome. How nice everybody is, you know, there’s no dumb question. Everybody is willing to help, like you said,

Trent Manning: 
Yeah, for sure. What do you know now? You wish you’d known on day one.

Shane Pokorney: 
so I’d have to say. Doing a job right? The first time and not rushing through things, trying to cut corners. Um, not only did I learn this in the shop working on equipment, but a couple of years ago, my wife and I bought a home built in 1880 and, uh, basically took it down to the bones and remodeled the whole thing. And, you know, it was a lot of, a lot of that was new to me. So ended up rushing through some things, you know, just having to go back and do it again. So, yeah, I’d say, I’d say do it right the first time, for sure would be a big thing.

Trent Manning: 
That’s a great one. I don’t think has been brought up yet either. And it probably should have been the first time I asked this question because that’s one of the most important things doing it.

Shane Pokorney: 
the, the basic things, you know, that’s another thing like just troubleshooting equipment. If I would have known a long time ago. You know the process to check the simple things first, it would have saved a lot of headaches.

Trent Manning: 
Oh, yeah, for sure. Because especially, I think it’s because sometimes if we don’t really understand what, you know, we’re troubleshooting, you know, for instance, if we’re taking an electrical problem and we, we already know all these things about the problem, but we’ll end up going down a rabbit hole. Looking at something that’s not even relevant to what we’re trying to troubleshoot, just because we don’t really understand it. And that’s one thing that you helped me a lot when I worked for Jerry pay cause they had so much, uh, Toro did had so much training online that was available to us. And one thing that I always tried to teach is if you look at, uh, electrical sematic, it could be. A four by eight sheet of paper, you know, covered up with wires and that’s pretty intimidating. But if you look at just the circuit that you’re having an issue with, so say a fuel pump there, there’s only a few things that control that fuel pump coming on and off. And that’s all you got to worry about. It don’t matter if the lights are working.

Shane Pokorney: 
Yeah, definitely. Yeah. They, uh, electrical schematics used to be very intimidating when looking at them and now, you know, just breaking it down. It’s it’s really, really not that difficult.

Trent Manning: 
No, and especially, I mean, what we’re have been doing now, I think it’s definitely going to get more difficult with Cambus and all these other things coming into play. And we probably will eventually need a laptop. If the manufacturers will give us the software to hook up the laptop,

Shane Pokorney: 
Right. Yeah. That’s exactly it.

Trent Manning: 
what are some of the tips and tricks you want to share with us that you use, that you liked?

Shane Pokorney: 
so trying to find something that is not just repeated on your podcast is a little tough, but I did think of something small. Um, most people probably use it a lot but it’s, uh, I take shop towels a lot and I put them in a socket and put a bolt in it. And that way the bolt can’t fall out as I’m trying to guide it to where it’s. Just kind of helps me out. And, uh, as a tip, I’d say, don’t forget to, uh, take a brain break. You know, for me, I like to get out and mow for a little bit, you know, mow greens, smoke, fairways, whatever, just really, really enjoy that.

Trent Manning: 
Now that’s a very, very good point. And for the technicians, that’s never worked out on the golf course and mode and that kind of stuff. I think it’s super important to get out there and. See how this, the machine supposed to sound and how it supposed to act. And it’ll help you down the road for sure. And one of my favorite jobs is mowing fairways. I love mowing fairways.

Shane Pokorney: 
Oh, it’s great. I mean, with a nice cutting mower, you never have to get off of it. Just mulling straight lines. It’s great

Trent Manning: 
That’s right. Moe and T’s. Nah, I don’t want no part of that.

Shane Pokorney: 
at too much turning.

Trent Manning: 
Yeah. diva. It’s tired. It will. So we, uh, our T square. So you’re going up in all the corners and you taking the tee markers off. Yeah, no thanks. But put me on a fairway mower. I’m happy all day long.

Shane Pokorney: 
Yeah. If I’m with you.

Trent Manning: 
What other stuff you want to talk about? You got anything on your mind? Anything

Shane Pokorney: 
question for you. You’re uh, you’re quite the fishermen, right?

Trent Manning: 
I try to be.

Shane Pokorney: 
Oh, I thought I thought you were fishing every weekend or something like

Trent Manning: 
I do I feel once a week, 52 weeks a year.

Shane Pokorney: 
Yeah. That’s pretty, pretty regular bass fishing.

Trent Manning: 
Yes. Uh, large mouth and spotted bass in my area.

Shane Pokorney: 
Yeah. It’s mostly crappie and catfish for us out here, but, uh, I like the best to, um, question favorite lure.

Trent Manning: 
Oh, boy, that is tough. That’s a tough one. How do you pick this one? Lower.

Shane Pokorney: 
no, you don’t. I just didn’t know.

Trent Manning: 
Yeah. So I guess for me it would be a Texas rig soft plastic, whether it be a worm or. You know, a crowded invitation or something like that. That’s definitely, probably my go-to. I mean, obviously depending on the season, I want to throw different things, um, in the, in the fall and sometimes in the spring throwing a rattletrap when the fish are on it, there’s, there’s nothing log it, but it’s the same thing. You can say that about top one.

Shane Pokorney: 
Oh, yeah.

Trent Manning: 
And here is usually 1st of May and seeing the fish come out of the water and attack the bait. Um, yeah, I don’t, they’re, they’re all kind of my favorite, but if I could only pick one, I would definitely pick Texas Ricks off plastic. That’s a good question.

Shane Pokorney: 
Yeah. I’m just trying to figure out how to catch fish over here. You

Trent Manning: 
Okay. Yeah, yeah, yeah, no, that’s good. I love it. I talk about fishing all day. If you want. And I don’t know? that I could teach you anything, but, uh, I know what I do say what else?

Shane Pokorney: 
I haven’t got a lot. one thing I’d like to throw in, I went to, the golf industry show for the first time, this last year. And, just wanted to, you know, let people who might not know, know how beneficial it is doing that, you know, if you have the means to get there. I really enjoyed meeting all the guys and, and just talk in and, and learning. So I think that’s a really important part.

Trent Manning: 
Were you part of the Melrose experience?

Shane Pokorney: 
Yes, I was.

Trent Manning: 
tell us a little bit about that process and how you get. And to that and, and, and all that stuff, because I think it’s great. And I know there are several y’all there. How many was. there this

Shane Pokorney: 
There is five of us.

Trent Manning: 
Yeah. And that’s so it was Matthew Kane.

Shane Pokorney: 
Matthew Cain was in the group. Yes. So as, uh, John pours us, um, then there was a Michael K from, from Arizona and. I think Frank might’ve been the last

Trent Manning: 
Yeah. that’s right. It was Frank McWiggin. Yeah,

Shane Pokorney: 
Yes. Yeah. That was it. So basically with that, I mean, that’s a great opportunity for somebody who hasn’t been to the show that wants to, um, just get on a GCSS website and find that page, fill out their application and send it in. And that’s about all there was to it. It’s pretty. they pay for you to go down there and pay for your stay. So it was wonderful.

Trent Manning: 
Yeah. that’s awesome. I’m so glad you got to come. So there was that the, first time you’d been to.

Shane Pokorney: 
Yeah. So that the, uh, Melrose is actually only for people who haven’t been before.

Trent Manning: 
Okay. Well, and that’s what I, I couldn’t remember if it was, you had never been, or you hadn’t been within the last five years or I didn’t remember exactly what, what the deal was with that. So, no, that’s awesome. I’m so glad you got to come. Glad I got to meet you there. Sorry. We didn’t get to talk longer than they had me

Shane Pokorney: 
And that’s okay. It’s really busy there. I understand. I, uh, hope to get back to, uh, Florida this year or next year and see you there.

Trent Manning: 
Well, I think Orlando is going to be a really big one

Shane Pokorney: 
Yeah.

Trent Manning: 
because a lot of people dip out on San Diego, you know, some of us political, which. No. I like to talk about, to keep politics out of it. I don’t know nothing. I want to talk about there, but, uh, the other thing, it is really expensive to go to San Diego, finding a place to stay. And I tell this story to everybody I can think of. And Orlando is really cheap to stay there because Disney and there’s so many people are in houses about. A lot of times, my director of agronomy will rent a house for a week that sleeps 10 people. So 10 people go in on us a hundred dollars for the week or something crazy

Shane Pokorney: 
Yep. That’s pretty cheap stay.

Trent Manning: 
Yeah, Yeah. You can’t beat that. I mean, I stayed in some, not so nice hotels for a hundred dollars a night

Shane Pokorney: 
Yeah, definitely.

Trent Manning: 
and the, Yeah, these are big houses with swimming pools and then everything else. Well, you ready for some rapid fire questions?

Shane Pokorney: 
Yeah, let’s do it.

Trent Manning: 
Alright. What’s your favorite movie?

Shane Pokorney: 
Forrest Gump.

Trent Manning: 
Ah, that’s a good one. Yeah. Yeah. Love it. You want to do a low impression?

Shane Pokorney: 
Oh boy, you can’t put me on the spot like that.

Trent Manning: 
sorry. Okay. Okay. It’s all good. It’s all right. Ron thoughts run. What would be your last meal?

Shane Pokorney: 
I’m a big Turkey hunter. So I’d have to go with some, uh, fried wild Turkey and gravy might. My friend makes it, and it’s amazing.

Trent Manning: 
Ah, good. Good, good, good. What are you most proud of?

Shane Pokorney: 
Uh, I’d have to say my wife, she’s, uh, overcame a lot and became a really great person. So yeah, just really proud of her.

Trent Manning: 
Ah, that’s awesome. So-so good. I love it. We’ll tell the listeners how they can get home.

Shane Pokorney: 
So I’m on Twitter. at the corny Shane, uh, in the WhatsApp group as well. you can always call me out that, you know, our phone numbers are on there, so don’t hesitate to reach out for anything. I also accept, fax and carrier pigeons.

Trent Manning: 
Okay. All right. That’s good.

Shane Pokorney: 
Yeah, that’ll work too.

Trent Manning: 
I don’t. Do you got a carrier pigeon, a beacon location there. Close to the shop or something.

Shane Pokorney: 
Uh, no, they’re kind of just like this one’s on Harry Potter. They’ll find the windows and just run into them.

Trent Manning: 
the then

Shane Pokorney: 
Yeah. They’ll get here.

Trent Manning: 
All right. Good deal, man. I love it. Thank you so much for coming on. This has been fun. Like it always is.

Shane Pokorney: 
Alright. Thanks for having me.

Trent Manning: 
Hope you enjoyed hearing from Shane. I love talking to a south top mechanic. I was lucky enough to have, uh, a great mentor. For my younger years. But I still learn a lot of stuff on my own. And I got a whole lot of respect for that. And I think the biggest thing is just, don’t be scared. There’s already broke. What’s the worst that can happen. The other important thing. I think he brought up. Was how important it is to be self-aware. And the trust yourself. And he realized using his degree. Like the fun out of it. Of what I really loved. So do what makes you happy? And remember a mentor. Doesn’t have to be someone who teaches you how to do your job. All it takes. As someone who believes in you. And supports your growth. Do you need help getting the show? Visit the GCSA website. Check out the Melrose, a yam experience. Definitely worse on and up for. And if you can make it a show by all means, try. I hope to see you there. I know we still got a long time. A little bit here for, you know, it. The plan has got to start sometime. No better time than the present. Until next time. See you. Bye. thank you so much for listening to the real turf techs podcast. I hope you learned something today. Don’t forget to subscribe. If you have any topics you’d like to discuss, or you’d like to be a guest, find us on Twitter at real turf techs.

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