Greg Womble, Equipment Manager at Hasentree Club in Wake Forest, North Carolina, disassembled his mom’s Electrolux vacuum cleaner to make a hovercraft. He knew at a young age he liked to take things apart. His Dad took him to a Deere tractor dealer at a young age and he thought I wanted to work here. So, after college he started working there. After a short time he was service manager for the newly started golf and turf division. Greg enjoys smoking meat and music in his free time. He has been very involved with TETAC of the years.
Transcript
Trent Manning: 0:05
welcome to the reel turf techs podcast for the technician that wants to get reel follow along.As we talk to industry professionals and address hot topics that we all face along the way we’ll learn tips and tricks.I’m your host,Trent.Manning let’s have some Welcome to the real turf text podcast,episode96.Today,we’re talking to Greg Womble equipment manager.Hasan tree.Club and wake forest,North Carolina.Hasan tree club is an18hole private resort style club.Greg is the loan tech in the shop.Let’s talk to Greg.Welcome,Greg to the Real Turf Text podcast.How you doing today?
Greg Womble: 0:51
Doing great,Trent.Hope you are.
Trent Manning: 0:53
Yep,I’m doing great.I appreciate your,you being here and this is always a lot of fun.I say this on every episode,just so the listeners know how much fun we have doing this.
Greg Womble: 1:04
Yeah.Well,I’m glad you’re doing it.It’s,uh,I was surprised at a couple of the people who had done it and I was looking back,like I hadn’t talked to David Blyk in years.It was back in our,we were,we were youngins and,uh,you know,bill Ledford and Burke Anders,and a lot of people were in my area.And then to hear Bland Cooper did it a thumbs up for Coop for doing that,that was pretty cool.
Trent Manning: 1:32
Okay.Yeah.Yeah.Awesome.Nah,he was,yeah,I see him at East Lake every year cuz I volunteer down there and I mean,he’s a great,great guy.
Greg Womble: 1:40
Yep.
Trent Manning: 1:41
Great guy.Well,tell us how you got into the turf industry.
Greg Womble: 1:45
Oh,I was born knowing I wanted to be an equipment technician at the golf course.Uh,I,I keep waiting for somebody to say that and mean it,but you know,
Trent Manning: 1:54
I was gonna say,you’re the first,first
Greg Womble: 1:56
no,no.That’s a unicorn dude.There,there’s,nobody’s been out there in.First grade,when they raise your hand,tell us what you wanna be when you grow up.And they go,oh,fireman,a policeman.I wanna be a golf course technician.Uh,we all end up stumbling,falling in a well somewhere and ending up in this business.I don’t know.It goes way back.I’m,I find there’s a common thread in a lot of us,you know,when I was growing up,I loved to take things apart to find out how they work.
Trent Manning: 2:22
Mm-hmm.
Greg Womble: 2:23
Uh,got my butt beat several times.I remember mama got an Electrolux vacuum cleaner,which I didn’t know at the time that was.A big deal,and I was in a
Trent Manning: 2:33
I remember.I remember the guy,the guy traveling around selling those
Greg Womble: 2:36
Oh yeah,he stole’em door to door.Well,I was sitting in a doctor’s office or something.They used to have these little magazines,I can’t remember what they were called,but in the back they had these ads and there was an ad that said,turn your vacuum cleaner into a hovercraft.And I’m like,dude,that’s awesome.Send99cents in a self-addressed,stamped envelope or something.And I decided I’d go in and get started on it before I got the plans.And shoot,that thing was less than a month old and I had it in pieces and uh,I got got a tannin for that one
Trent Manning: 3:06
I bet,I bet.
Greg Womble: 3:08
and I laid off for a little while.But I remember I was at my grandmother’s one time,they had a mini bike and used to ride at mini bike everywhere.And I don’t know what hit me,but I came back in about time for dinner.And I started taking it apart.Figure out how it worked.I got hung up on the clutch,didn’t know them well.Allen screws are back there,so I was beating a snot out of the,the clutch in the drive.I had to get it apart and that’s how far I was.I already had the cover bolts off and everything,and daddy’s truck pulled up and I went and it,that’s when it dawned on me.Oh crap.I’m gonna get a butt whooping right now.And he got outta the truck,walked up to me real slow and said,having trouble with that clutch,are you?I said,yeah,I can’t figure out how to get it off.So he got some Allen wrenches,showed me that Allen wrenches back there and get it off.Had it help me take it off.Turned to go in inside and he said,now you’re gonna come eat.And I’m running real good on putting stuff back together,love tearing it apart.
Trent Manning: 4:10
Right,right.
Greg Womble: 4:11
And he said,tomorrow when I get home,it thing better be back together and better be running holy.
Trent Manning: 4:17
Mm-hmm.
Greg Womble: 4:18
So it,you know,10years old.But I didn’t get a butt whoop it.So I got a little help from my uncle and we got it back together and,and.I decided,I tried not to do a whole lot of that,but about that same time I was probably11,12years old by then.Debbie got a job selling,or not selling,but doing ag chemical research.So he got these skull and crossbones bottles of witches brew and went to different farms,different farmers,and he would put it out on crops and do tests and stuff and send it back in for herbicides and insecticides.So I was always with him in the summer and we went to buy a new tractor one time and I went to the the John Deere store down in Fuquay.And man,I,there were tractors bigger than I’d ever seen,you know,and I
Trent Manning: 5:03
Mm-hmm.
Greg Womble: 5:04
I wanna drive that,I want this.And I remember as a kid going,I wanna work here.Well,10years later,so I graduated college,got outta college with,uh,I went for pre-vet.And first semester I drank so much beer and went to many parties and found out the girls that were all there for pre-vet were serious.And I was not quite as serious.That was gonna be a long shot,but uh,ended up graduating in economics and a business management degree,but,I went to work at a,in a family business.My uncle ran a,uh,institutional foods kind of thing in Durham.Worked there for a couple years and en enjoyed it cuz of him,but just,it wasn’t my cup of tea.And so when I left there,there was a job opening at that same dealership,and I said,I,I remembered that back in the day.Went and applied as a,like an inventory guy or something,you know,get,get stuff into the shop,get it together,get it up here,count it every month,order stuff.Did not like that at all.But every time I had to walk through the shop,I mean,I,I worked at a Yasu dealer and Snapper dealer in college.You know,just,that’s what I like to do.
Trent Manning: 6:18
Mm-hmm.
Greg Womble: 6:19
So every time I was going through the shop,you’d see somebody in there struggling with something and I’d,Hey,you tried this,done that.And so several times a day I’d be back and forth and it wasn’t long.Somebody would come out and,Hey,come look at this for me.Come look at this with me.And I gravitated right back on what I like to do and got in trouble for it.Like,what are you doing in the shop all the time?Well,the.The owner at the time,his,well,he was part owner too,his uncle was the shop manager and they had just gotten into golf and turf contract with Deere.Derrick started,decided they wanted to be in the golf business and the family,other than the owner,didn’t wanna be in the golf business.They didn’t wanna have anything to do with it.They didn’t know anything about it.So I,I just kinda.Was back there all the time,helping him figure out stuff and do what I could do.And he finally came to me one day and said,look,uh,we need a manager for service in golfing turf.Would you,uh,you wanna do it?You’re already doing it.And I said,well,yeah,I’ll try it.I mean,rather be doing that than this.So by default,I ended up as a service manager for a golf and turf,young golf and turf.Dealer and John Deere,which is how I melt B blowers back when he was a Georgia turf.But,uh,or both the Bowers brothers,but it,It was kind of tough because it was a family business and I mean,a lot of family
Trent Manning: 7:51
Mm-hmm.
Greg Womble: 7:51
not all of’em wanted to be in that business.So,the good thing about it was the,you know,Turner at the time,the manage,his dad was still there in part owner,but he,he was running place and he was passionate about customer service,uh,and about that side of the business.He saw it as growth opportunity and he really pushed it,and I was passionate about,The customer relationship side of it and he,and he backed that.So I just grew,I learned everything.I had no golf course experience,you know,working on course,but for23years I traveled the Carolinas and Virginias and a few times outside of that to,uh,to help customers who had bought something and now had to live with it,you know,and that’s what you gotta do.
Trent Manning: 8:40
Yeah.Yeah.
Greg Womble: 8:42
and then,uh,ended up,but at times,I’m telling you,I ended up running the service and parts department and I felt like I was running an adult daycare a lot.
Trent Manning: 8:50
Mm-hmm.
Greg Womble: 8:51
It just,you got two60year old parks guys who are back here physically wanting to fight each other.I’m like,what are y’all doing,dude,this is crazy.Like,
Trent Manning: 9:00
Yeah.
Greg Womble: 9:00
but when you,you got that many people running business,you gonna run across stuff.But I ended up burning out,hit midlife,went in about half crazy and started drinking too much and doing things I shouldn’t have done.And I ended up.Here at Hazing Tree because they had,I was working a tournament at Sedgefield and their mechanic had walked out or something bad happened and I got a call that could I come help’em?And I,I volunteered to do that and then they couldn’t pay me cuz the ownership at the time didn’t write checks.And I’m not taking credit card.I’m not running a business.Dude,I came to help you.
Trent Manning: 9:34
Yeah.Yeah,yeah,yeah.
Greg Womble: 9:35
I said,I’ll load the fairway units up by this ground and take’em home and you’ll figure out a way to pay.I’m sure we can figure it out.But ended up.I said,look,just put me on part-time.No better.Just put,just make me a part-time employee.Cause I couldn’t even be on site without insurance.It was crazy.
Trent Manning: 9:51
Hmm.
Greg Womble: 9:51
So,so we did,I went part-time doing that and then they,they,you know,the superintendent left and they asked me if I’d stay on and I did.And then I got,I got hooked by these,this crew,these young assistants we’ve got,they’re good kids.And I remember when this property was first built.I was,you know,we were,we were a vendor for’em and I,what it was supposed to be and what it can be was great and it was in a bad shape and I was seeing the efforts to restore it and I’m like,this is just awesome.I don’t have to put up with nobody else
Trent Manning: 10:24
Yeah.Yeah.
Greg Womble: 10:24
doing my deal and making progress and watching these kids get better.And yeah,so it’s been a fun time for,it’s been six years now here,
Trent Manning: 10:32
Okay.Awesome.
Greg Womble: 10:34
but,but yeah,I just stumbled in it like everybody else.
Trent Manning: 10:37
Yeah,just like all of us,just uh,right,right place or wrong place,wrong time,however you wanna look at it.
Greg Womble: 10:44
That’s right.
Trent Manning: 10:45
No,we,we have fun though.What’s one of your least favorite parts of the job and why is that?Sand
Greg Womble: 10:54
Well,I never have like the beach other than the sand,the saltwater and the sun.I’m pretty,I love the beach,but I don’t know it,you know,the necessary evil.
Trent Manning: 11:05
Mm-hmm.
Greg Womble: 11:07
it’s,it’s also,there’s a right and wrong way to do it.I know I went two years and I ground every day.We mow
Trent Manning: 11:16
Wow.
Greg Womble: 11:16
and trying to.Trying to explain from,from my end without,you know,bitching and griping,making it,uh,I hold my end of it up,but you need to accomplish what you’re trying to accomplish,putting out sand and there’s no way to harvest sand and have quality cut.You can’t harvest sand and cut grass,
Trent Manning: 11:37
No,not happening.
Greg Womble: 11:39
and,and there’s gonna be a,a fine line there.So you need to,First of all,you gotta have somewhere for sand to grow.And we,we converted greens,uh,to G12,which is just short of past palm,in my opinion,as far as density.And there,there’s nowhere for sand to go.
Trent Manning: 11:56
So is it,uh,Bermuda
Greg Womble: 11:58
Yeah,it’s,uh,it’s Bermuda.and,and you know it,there’s nowhere for it to go.You gotta find your right.Size in your mix.and,and if you just wanna bury it and then come back and mow you’re,you and I don’t have a set of sand reels,like I don’t have the luxury of having sand harvesting equipment.So,so yeah,it’s a struggle,but it,you know,it’s like that everywhere.
Trent Manning: 12:24
Oh yeah.Yep.I think,uh,we all deal with it.Some of us probably deal with it more than others.
Greg Womble: 12:29
Yep.
Trent Manning: 12:30
And with these temperatures we’ve been having recently and our guys are wanting to top dress like at summertime,it just,it is not growing through it.And it’s,it’s been a challenge the last couple weeks for me.I know,and I’m sure a lot of,lot of other people can relate to that.Well,tell us what your favorite tool is.
Greg Womble: 12:50
Well,like,like a lot of people say that,you know,the phone is a.Is a nice thing to have with the smartphone.We,I came up before there were smartphones in computer.You know,we,we thought we were something when we had a pager.
Trent Manning: 13:05
Oh yeah.
Greg Womble: 13:06
you,uh,phone does a lot of things for you as far as having the ability to take a picture for recall,for people like me who have a hard time remembering and for accessing,you know,Internet information pretty quick.But the biggest thing I think the phone is,is the quick network tool.now most people are accessible more quickly with it,and people have asked me a lot of times,like I,I still get calls today,weekly for troubleshooting help.
Trent Manning: 13:39
Mm-hmm.
Greg Womble: 13:39
I think,I remember one time George Dice used to be,uh,Toro,our Toro dealer’s go-to guy for tech support and troubleshooting,and he did have a lot of knowledge and,and a lot of,uh,lot of things were in his head,but.I tell people,nobody knows everything.I don’t care how long you’ve been around it,how long you’ve worked on it,you,you don’t know everything.And it’s not important to be able to read or to remember the schematic.It’s important to know how to read and where to get the schematic.And if I tell him,like if you sent me out right now and said,you need to be in Santa Monica,California tomorrow.I could head west.Never been to Santa Monica.I’d probably need a map of some kind.I mean,I could get close,
Trent Manning: 14:29
Right.Right.
Greg Womble: 14:29
but the trick is to know where the map is and how to read it.Not to remember how to get to Santa Monica.I may never have to go back there again.Don’t fill up all that memory with that.And so a lot of the schematic help and troubleshooting stuff is,is more about resource,knowing where to find it and how to read it.And who and at times who to call to help with that.So the phone’s a bigger thing to me as far as outreach.now as the older I get,the flashlight becomes a better tool.I need eyeballs and a flashlight
Trent Manning: 15:05
Yep.No,
Greg Womble: 15:07
and glasses.
Trent Manning: 15:08
I think that’s a really good point there too though.Yeah,because,uh,we could keep all that knowledge in our head maybe,but,I already got enough enough in there and killed enough brain cells over the years.Yeah,just knowing.Knowing where to
Greg Womble: 15:26
go to Kalamazoo,Michigan.I’ve never been there.
Trent Manning: 15:29
Yeah.
Greg Womble: 15:30
You’re gonna have a new challenge every day.So it’s,it’s more about where to find the resource and how to use it.
Trent Manning: 15:35
What do you do to relax or find your balance?
Greg Womble: 15:39
Uh,I struggle with that,to be honest with you,cuz I used to,uh,I got real intense.I think that’s probably where I burned out at more of like a midlife crisis or whatever it was.I,I,I tend to,I’m not a multitasker,my wife,she can juggle,like spin three plates and juggle balls.Like she’s just,that’s her personality.I’m not,I.Focus on something and try to get it done.And I,I’ve noticed that’s kind of a common thread with a lot of good technicians too.that interruption messes with you some.
Trent Manning: 16:12
Mm-hmm.
Greg Womble: 16:13
So I,I struggle with that,but I,I used to fish a lot.Love that.Don’t do that much anymore.The only thing I do now probably is music.And I like smoking meat.I,I love to eat
Trent Manning: 16:28
Oh,yeah,yeah,yeah.
Greg Womble: 16:29
uh,man,I,I love smoking meat,so,
Trent Manning: 16:34
I don’t What’s your,what’s your favorite thing to smoke?
Greg Womble: 16:36
uh,Britt’s my favorite thing,but I,
Trent Manning: 16:39
Okay.
Greg Womble: 16:40
I will,I’ve smoked bologna,salmon,like,it doesn’t matter.I can smoke a shoe in this new smoker and it’ll come out good.It’s just,it’s
Trent Manning: 16:48
What kind,what kind of smoker you got?
Greg Womble: 16:51
Well,I,I,I traded in my man card.It’s not offset or wood anymore.It’s a,it’s an electric smoker,uh,MECU,but it’s so,it’s more like an oven.That’s why you can’t mess it up.
Trent Manning: 17:03
Okay.Yeah.Yeah.
Greg Womble: 17:05
but whew,I’m telling you,I fought smokers over the years and,you know,there’s an art to it.I used to work in a barbecue joint in high school and we had old smokehouse out back.We’d stay out there all night long,sometimes go to school next morning,you know,cooking hogs and
Trent Manning: 17:22
Mm-hmm.
Greg Womble: 17:23
you,they’re variables and there’s an art to it.This thing,it’s a darn oven,man.You,you said it.I act like it’s hard and make everybody think it’s still a job.It’s almost automatic.So,
Trent Manning: 17:36
no,that,I mean,that’s good stuff though.And I know there’s,yeah,there’s a lot of naysayers and say you’re not being a traditionalist and all that stuff,but at the end of the day,you just want to eat some really good meat,right?
Greg Womble: 17:50
brisket is always juice.Said,always tender.
Trent Manning: 17:54
One,I don’t,you know,I don’t know who said it,but smarter,not harder.I mean,that’s,that’s,that’s where you’re at.You
Greg Womble: 18:00
I say
Trent Manning: 18:01
set it,forget it.
Greg Womble: 18:02
a cover up for being lazy,but,but I like smarter,not harder.
Trent Manning: 18:07
Well,I saw a shirt the other day this old guy was wearing,he said,and it said,uh,I’m not lazy.I just enjoy doing nothing.Said.I like that.It’s pretty
Greg Womble: 18:18
There you go.
Trent Manning: 18:19
I was giving my dad a hard time,said I’m gonna get him one of those because he enjoys doing nothing a lot.What’s been one of your biggest challenges to date?
Greg Womble: 18:30
My biggest challenge probably has.Well,when,when I was at the dealership,one of the bigger challenges was riding that edge between,um,trying to be profitable enough to be a business cuz you have to be,and being helpful enough,to,to grow customer relationships.And,and there are times like,I mean,I,I’ve warranted bearings,which by warranty I mean we paid for rather than,you know,Deere’s not gonna pay for that.
Trent Manning: 18:57
Mm-hmm.
Greg Womble: 18:58
To be able to teach somebody what a grease gun was like.That’s not a good business decision short term,
Trent Manning: 19:04
Mm-hmm.
Greg Womble: 19:05
but,but riding that line to try to figure out when should you help somebody and when you shouldn’t.Like I said,fortunately I.Leadership leaned a little bit more that way.Like,give somebody a chance,show a little grace,try and if,if they quit trying,then I can’t help you.But if they’re learning and they’re trying,then,you know,kind of deal.
Trent Manning: 19:28
Yeah.Yeah.Yep.
Greg Womble: 19:30
but I don’t know,I biggest challenges now are just getting old,getting up and down’s a challenge.
Trent Manning: 19:37
Right,right.
Greg Womble: 19:39
Rolling around like a fish in the bottom of a boat trying to get off the floor.
Trent Manning: 19:42
mm-hmm.Yep.No,I understand that.And,uh,I’ve heard it my whole life.You know,just wait till you get old.You know,you,but I didn’t.I didn’t,and I still,I don’t feel that old,but I,I feel a lot older than I used to.What’s the strangest thing you’ve seen at work?
Greg Womble: 20:01
Well,I’ve seen a lot of strange things.I remember a hurricane came through and down near Newburn,there was a shop that was built with weird windows,horizontal windows up top.It was built kinda like a prison or something.They were just odd looking windows were eight feet tall.I couldn’t even look at’em and were like skylights,and there were utility vehicles floating right side up.Across a pond,you couldn’t get to it,but you could see utility vehicles floating at about a seven,eight foot mark inside the building with the water’s still in it,which is surreal.It’s odd,but I think the weirdest thing was fairly recently,a couple years ago at the Sedgefield tournament,you’re partnering crime in the,uh,certificate development program,Eric Duncanson.
Trent Manning: 20:49
Okay.Yep.
Greg Womble: 20:50
Was,uh,he was with us at the tournament and I always messed with him and he’s easy to mess with,but I was always picking on him about,uh,kilt and his regalia and stuff.And he won,oh gosh,what was,I think it was a Saturday night.It was toward the end of the tournament.Uh,he called his wife and had her bring all his regalia.And he showed up in the evening with his kilt,the,the,the whole powder horn,everything,whatever it was.And,uh,I think he’d had a,we npo scotch,but,
Trent Manning: 21:24
Mm-hmm.
Greg Womble: 21:25
but,uh,one of the cops working the guard down there was messing with,got anything on under there.He said,you don’t ask if you don’t want to see.He said he moons him here,right on the dead course.I’m like,whoa,Eric.
Trent Manning: 21:40
Oh boy.
Greg Womble: 21:41
That’s probably the strangest thing I’ve seen the golf course the most,you can’t unsee it and uh,don’t wanna see it again.But
Trent Manning: 21:50
That’s
Greg Womble: 21:51
was Eric.
Trent Manning: 21:52
Oh yeah,no,that was Eric.I definitely,uh,I miss him.I sure do
Greg Womble: 21:56
too.I do too.
Trent Manning: 21:58
he was,uh,one of a kind for sure.And,uh,I enjoyed getting to know him and hanging out with him and great guy.Well,talking about great guys.Do you have a mentor in the industry?Somebody
Greg Womble: 22:13
Well,I’m kinda,I’m kind of toward the twilight of my career,so I don’t know that I have a mentor anymore.But I have had,you know,I told you how I kind of got in the business and,and Turner Revels,uh,was a mentor.And that he had a passion for customer service and that,that fits me cuz I’m more of a servant kind of guy.Like I not a quarterback play,you know,guard.I’m a lineman.I’m on the team,uh,not a star,but I pull my weight and,and so I,I fit in that kind of thing.And we struggled financially for years and I really enjoyed that.I like being on an underdog team and I like whipping tail when you’re not supposed to.And so that was.That was good.And he,he was a mentor in that sense a lot.Uh,cuz he cared about the people as much almost or more than he did money for a long time.And I,you don’t find that in business.so I appreciated that.And I had,they were superintendents when I was a dive green and didn’t know any better like John Hilton.but Sheffield,some,some big names in our area that,that.You know,gave me a lot of leeway,showed me a lot of grace,and weren’t as caustic as they could have been.And a lot of times when,when they probably felt like being,cuz equipment was an issue,but they gave me benefit to.To help him.And I think probably the best technician I’ve ever worked with and has taught me a lot was court rash.Scott Wyatt,and court rash and court,because he thinks a lot like I do.You have to have a,I don’t say you have to,but I think it helps to have like a logical mind to do this.You gotta have some kind.The aptitude is,An if then thing.If,if this were to happen,what would happen next?And that kind of helps you solve problems and troubleshoot.
Trent Manning: 24:00
Mm-hmm.
Greg Womble: 24:01
And court’s one of the most talented mechanics I’ve ever seen in my life.And he thinks kinda like,I think actually thinks a little better than I think,which is good for him.But any,he’s the,the go-to like pick up the phone.If this doesn’t make sense and I’m thinking I’m right before I pull the trigger,I’ll call,say,let me give you the scenario.
Trent Manning: 24:22
Mm-hmm.
Greg Womble: 24:23
Here’s what it appears to be,and here’s me and,and talking through it.Cuz I get this feeling like I just,I don’t feel confident enough.I’m gonna talk to you.If we both agree,then I’m gonna go do this.If not,Let’s talk it out.Well,it’s almost like talking to yourself,you know,
Trent Manning: 24:39
Mm-hmm.
Greg Womble: 24:39
he just,he,we get it.We think kind of the same.And,uh,I can’t weld.He’s a great welder,good fabricator.I can bubblegum something and every now and then I can make it even look good.But he’s,uh,he’s just all around,doesn’t constantly trying to do something new.Good guy.
Trent Manning: 24:58
Is he working for Deere?
Greg Womble: 25:00
He is now working for Deere and I hope
Trent Manning: 25:03
but was he a golf course tech before then?
Greg Womble: 25:05
Yeah,he,I met him.So John Hilton built Prestonwood and Carey54Hole Country Club in Carey,North Carolina.And I met court,he,they were customer of ours in court,was there probably within three years of me dealing with them.And he stayed there many years.And when he left,He ran his own business for a while doing,uh,towing.Uh,ran an auto shop and stuff,and he ended up coming back and working,running our refurb department.He,well,he actually ran it.We,we subbed it out,contracted to him in our building,and so he did all the rec,reconditioning of used equipment and a lot of other things like side jobs and stuff.He just,and when I left,he was the service manager,service director for.Revels for,I guess min,almost five years,somewhere in that time.And then he went to work for Deere,so.
Trent Manning: 26:02
Okay.Yeah,I met him at one of the Ttag deals,I guess two years ago maybe,but definitely seemed like a sharp guy.What would be your dream job or opportunity?
Greg Womble: 26:15
I’m not too much wanting a job anymore,so I don’t know that I dream about a job.I’ve got two things I’d like to do,but I’d love to work on the deck or be on the deck of a aircraft carrier just to see all that action go down one time in person.I don’t know why I just,that would be awesome to see a,a jet launch on a rubber band and,and caught by one,you know,in person.
Trent Manning: 26:39
Oh,yeah.
Greg Womble: 26:40
And I’d love to see the Northern Lights one time out in person.I think that’s just an amazing thing.I don’t,
Trent Manning: 26:47
Mm-hmm.
Greg Womble: 26:48
but other than that,like I,I don’t know.I don’t,not dreaming of jobs anymore.I’m dreaming of retirement now.
Trent Manning: 26:55
Yeah,no,I hear you.How,how much,how much longer you got?
Greg Womble: 26:59
Oh,I’ll die for retire.It’s I just turned,I just turned582weeks ago.In fact,right when I had to reschedule with you was the week of my birthday,so58and feeling about78,
Trent Manning: 27:15
Why don’t,yeah,you’re go,the,the government says you can work another20
Greg Womble: 27:19
That’s,that’s
Trent Manning: 27:20
Right.So you’re
Greg Womble: 27:21
right.That’s exactly right.No,
Trent Manning: 27:25
technician would you I’m?Yeah.No,and I,I’m,I’m much the same.I don’t know that I’ll ever retire.Retire.I mean,maybe I’ll slow down.Maybe I’ll.Go to a small course and lot slower pace and all those things maybe.But I definitely wanna stay busy doing something.I just,I’m not one to sit around.What technician would you like to work with for a day?Got anybody Enjoy working for?
Greg Womble: 27:55
I,I’ve worked with so many over the years.I,I’ve been blessed to work with so many over the years.I,I don’t know,I don’t,I don’t really have any desire to,And,and the older I get,I don’t even wanna be around people hardly.I’m,I’m,I’m a click away from being that old man on the front porch,yelling at kids for riding their bike through the yard.I just,
Trent Manning: 28:15
That’s good stuff.
Greg Womble: 28:16
I don’t know,I don’t know that I have anybody that wanna work with.It kind of sticks out.I think when I was young,you know,you wanted to do tournament,wanted to do the p g I have never done the Masters and I would wouldn’t mind seeing that and doing it,but,I don’t know it,I don’t feel like I’ve missed anything and I learned something.What is funny,I learned something from anybody I work with every time.
Trent Manning: 28:41
Right.Yeah.So basically it don’t matter if you spend spend a day with anybody,you’re
Greg Womble: 28:46
come spend a day with you.Love it.
Trent Manning: 28:49
Yeah.Yeah.No,we have fun.And you teach me how to cook some barbecue
Greg Womble: 28:53
If we can do it.
Trent Manning: 28:54
yeah.Well,what do you know now you wish you’d known on day one?
Greg Womble: 28:58
I wish I knew that youth was wasted on the young.
Trent Manning: 29:02
Hmm.
Greg Womble: 29:03
it,it is,it is kind of odd that,and the older you get every,every year,like you lose a little more strength and eyesight and balance and my knees kill me.Like it,I I should have done more when I was young.
Trent Manning: 29:16
Mm-hmm.
Greg Womble: 29:17
I just should have But God,I’ve learned more and more every day.And uh,you know,I think if you ever quit learning that you have retired,you might as well cuz that’s,it’s a done deal and things are changing so fast now.I was,I was born behind the bubble.When I was in college,we,you know,we had computer programming was just coming out like two years before there was a course on,and it was like coball,you know,little green screen making a pong ball dance around the screen or something.It was so different.Uh,so I was behind a lot of the technology age.And our industry’s about,well they used to be10to12years behind the auto industry cuz they would just take technology that had phased out and it was still for sale and being made.So,you know,Toro and Deere would buy it up.Yeah,make me a controller for this.And it was an old Chrysler o b d controller.
Trent Manning: 30:17
Right.Right.
Greg Womble: 30:17
Uh,so I working in a dealership,I was able to see some of that technology a little earlier.That still was old technology.It’s stuff that’s out now,like good gracious.
Trent Manning: 30:28
Mm-hmm.
Greg Womble: 30:29
end vehicle and you’ve got at least seven computers that are talking to each other.Sometimes now not on land,but wifi or something,you know,
Trent Manning: 30:38
Oh yeah,yeah.No,it’s crazy.Yeah.Uh,well,and this was several years ago,a buddy of mine,he was working with a golf construction company and they had rented a John Deere tractor,and I mean,it was a big tractor.I don’t remember model number,whatever,but.Big tractor,not what you got at the golf course.A lot bigger,and they were pulling a pan with it and some code come up on the screen and they called his cell phone and said,you need to turn this tractor off immediately.It’s like,how do they know?
Greg Womble: 31:10
they know?Mm-hmm.
Trent Manning: 31:12
And this was several years ago.But yeah,it’s crazy the technology out there and what G p s spraying and,you know,individual nozzle control.Just crazy where we’re at.
Greg Womble: 31:25
that was pretty cool.Court.Court actually built right before he left Revels,he built a GPS sprayer and I helped him wire it,but.That’s just,I mean,that’s just who he is.He’s like,ah,they want a30foot boom.They want to pull behind tank.It’s like old nurse tank sprayer,but they wanted a gps.All right,well let’s make a gps.
Trent Manning: 31:45
Wow.That’s cool.Really cool.I want to tell you about a great product that I’ve been using task tracker.I know what you’re thinking.Task trackers for labor.But I’m here to tell you is also an easy to use equipment maintenance platform.Employees can scan QR code and send notes about the condition of equipment.And the equipment can be assigned to employees.Making the more accountable.I encourage you to reach out to Jamie and Gerald.The founders of ASB task tracker.At ASB task,tracker.com to schedule a demo and see how easy the platform is to use.Again,That’s ASB task tracker.com.Let’s get back to the episode.Well,how do you deal with that person that’s on your crew?How do you positively address.
Greg Womble: 32:37
that person is several people on our crew.And.I remember one time being,I think it was a Virginia show and we were talking in the hall during a break and there were a group of technicians out there and,and they started bitching him moaning about operators,you know,wheel holders and lever pullers.They don’t know.And I remember Nick Hamner,who used to be,may still be,I doubt it,but it used to be at Wintergreen,it was about15years.I was senior at the time.He was very solemn and he looked up and he was the only one that wasn’t complaining.He said,have you trained him?And I thought,Hmm,no,I hadn’t thought of that.Not,not my job to train him,is it,you know,that was the first thought you had.But like I said,I never worked on a course till I got here.And come to realize that,yeah,you assume that the assistants or the superintendent or somebody has trained them nine times outta10.That is not the case no matter what the paperwork reflects.And even if they have,a lot of times they don’t know proper operation.
Trent Manning: 33:42
Yeah.
Greg Womble: 33:42
So it behooves you to add that to one of your duties to try to train’em.So my,my first response now,Is to instruct and to show’em,you know,here,here’s what we want to do and here’s why we want to do it.And I,I have come to learn,you know,I,I’ve not always had a lot of patience and I still don’t,it’s the only reason I’m not a doctor,but most people,the majority of people don’t come to work to do a bad job
Trent Manning: 34:12
Right.
Greg Womble: 34:14
they.If,if they don’t have to go too far outta their way,they’d rather do a good job.
Trent Manning: 34:19
Mm-hmm.
Greg Womble: 34:21
so if you,if you have a little bit of instruction time and a little bit of explanation about how that affects the equipment,our job,the rest of the day,the crew and what we’re really looking for,then I,I try to,Go that route first,and if it happens again,I’ll pull the keys and tell you to walk back to the shop if you did it on purpose.Negligently.
Trent Manning: 34:45
Right,right.
Greg Womble: 34:46
but no,you get,you get a first and second chance if you,especially since probably hadn’t even been shown,you know?
Trent Manning: 34:56
Oh yeah.Yeah.No,and I think,I think it makes,I mean,that’s a really good point.And the other thing I was thinking about as you were talking about that is a lot of people,uh,This is my personal experience anyway.A lot of people that we hire at the golf course nowadays,because we used to be in a little bit more rural area and now we’re more in a metropolitan area.A lot of the kids we hired,they didn’t grow up like you and I did on or near a farm,or,you know,being out in the woods and,uh,you know,My first job,I don’t know if I’ve told this story or not,was hauling hay as a kid.I got$5an hour and my best friend growing up,you know,when I’m10,12years old,his dad cut all the hay in our local area here.So I mean,I got a lot of experience.You know,at12years old on,you know,in a hayfield,loading trailers,hooking trailers up,you know,just stuff that I take for granted and I don’t even think about.And we get somebody at the shop with our work truck and they’re like,how do you hook this trailer up?I’m like,really?know,how,how did,how did you make it this far in life?And you didn’t know how to hook a trailer up,but,uh,I mean,I definitely take it for granted,but that’s something I think back on.A lot of the people we hire,you know,they don’t,they don’t have the,that experience level.
Greg Womble: 36:37
No,that’s,that’s definitely the case.In fact,and I think you,you came to the t i I did a class this year at Ttac,just on tractors and implements how to hook’em up.And we were talking about it,and I’m like,that you,you tend to think that everybody has your level of experience or something close and,and a lot of the people.Have never had experience with the equipment.This is their first experience of the course with this type of
Trent Manning: 37:10
Mm-hmm.
Greg Womble: 37:11
And I,that just goes unnoticed.I’m so blind just stumbling through that.
Trent Manning: 37:17
Mm-hmm.
Greg Womble: 37:18
the basics are not the basics.So we did that class and I got a lot of feedback from it.And when I was doing,I was thinking,this is such a dumb class.Like what in the world am I,no,it’s not.Cause.I was shown that,but I’ve shown that at13years old
Trent Manning: 37:34
Mm-hmm.
Greg Womble: 37:35
and not everybody was like,no.
Trent Manning: 37:39
Well,no,I,I love that class you’ve done,and I mean,I’ve been around for a while and I still picked up some things saying,I really appreciate you doing it,and it’s not common knowledge.
Greg Womble: 37:51
no,it,it just,it seems like it should be,and I think that’s why a lot of people end up,you know,slinging wrenches and getting mad and.But I remember Nick Hamner put that in my head.He,he sat there and I remember being convicted by,he just looked at me real solemnly and said,have you trained him?
Trent Manning: 38:08
Mm-hmm.
Greg Womble: 38:10
You’re right,Nick.Good for,good for you.
Trent Manning: 38:13
Yep.No,and it does.I mean,it takes a special person to speak out and say that too,because a lot of times in,and I’ve been in that setting a hundred times and everybody just wants to jump on the bandwagon.
Greg Womble: 38:25
right.Moaning Gro.Yep.
Trent Manning: 38:27
Yep.My own and grown.That’s what us grumpy old mechanics like to do.We just like to moan and groan,so.Why stop us.So,yeah.Good on him for speaking up.What kind of tips and tricks you wanna share with us?
Greg Womble: 38:44
Oh,there’s a,everybody’s,I remember like Burke talking about the,uh,blind bearing and grease and dowel and all that.I’ve been showing a lot of tricks that I thought,that’s pretty neat.Should have thought of that.Could have thought of that.Probably wouldn’t have thought of that.
Trent Manning: 39:01
Mm-hmm.Yep.
Greg Womble: 39:02
But there are no,you know,none.I’ve invented,I don’t.One of the neatest things for me,especially as it gets harder to see and up under something,these,uh,these new,seeing,these new fuses that are diode fuses when they blow the diode lights.And so you got,
Trent Manning: 39:21
seen
Greg Womble: 39:21
oh man,they’re
Trent Manning: 39:22
a good idea.Yeah.
Greg Womble: 39:24
when they use mini fuses and they’ve got’em in a cluster with like50fuses in that little power box and one blows and I can’t say things lit up.If it blows,it’s lit.That’s a pretty smart idea.I can’t believe I didn’t vent that.
Trent Manning: 39:40
Oh yeah.No,that’s a really good one.I love
Greg Womble: 39:44
the other thing that I used a couple years ago that I still think is cool that I saw when I was a kid,guy from England showed me in college was,you know,small engine.End up low on oil.It gauze crank shaft o,aluminum rod bearing,and it ruins a crank.Well,if you take sulfuric acid and put on that crank nine times outta10,that steel is good.It’s not,it’s just a aluminum welded to it,but it’s not messed with the finish on the steel and fresh sulfuric acid.You can sit there and drip it on slowly or dab it with a co Q-tip or something and it’ll just melt that aluminum away.Turn it like you don’t wanna be breathing it.You wanna do it outside?
Trent Manning: 40:27
yeah,yeah.Yep.Well-ventilated area.
Greg Womble: 40:30
area.Do not freeze that,but it’ll,you don’t have to buy a crank.
Trent Manning: 40:36
No,that’s a good one.Yep.Yeah,I remember scraping cranks with razor blades.Trying to get that off.
Greg Womble: 40:44
sulfuric acid wear,wear protective equipment.Do not inhale it.Be outside,but no,it’ll,it’ll melt it right away in a bunch of fumes.And Black Luna oxide will roll off.
Trent Manning: 40:58
All right.I might have to try that.I got,I got one sitting in the shop that needs to be rebuilt.
Greg Womble: 41:03
If it’s been on the shelf for a while,the acid will get diluted with some water,some atmospheric dew,and it’ll kind of dilute it.But you get fresh sulfuric acid from Lowe’s Home Depot.It’ll eat that aluminum right off.It’ll be slick as it can be.
Trent Manning: 41:20
Awesome.I’m gonna give it a try.Let’s talk about Ttac.How long you been involved with them?
Greg Womble: 41:27
Originally
Trent Manning: 41:29
Were you one of the founders
Greg Womble: 41:30
mm-hmm.
Trent Manning: 41:31
with Burke and.
Greg Womble: 41:34
well,Burke Burke wasn’t there yet,but Bill
Trent Manning: 41:39
Bill Ledford.Yep.
Greg Womble: 41:41
LED was,Rex Floyd was a.He was a technician then.He was a superintendent for a while.Then he was head of the Carolina’s,uh,superintendent’s Association.And while he was president of the association,he had set up trying,trying to get a technician’s line of training in it.He had set up a grinder demonstration or school.And I think it was Bernhard that was gonna do it,and something happened,flame plane flight got canceled,something last minute went down.And so since he had been a technician,he had come up with something.So he decided to do a uh,like a,a panel of get,get three,get your vendors up here,have a little panel discussion.Ask him anything you want to ask him?It’s a free range,you know,sort of a free for all basically,cuz it was last minute.And at the end of that he had a little impromptu meeting.He said if anybody wants to stay,we wanna talk about having an association.And there was the people that stayed there were a lot of positive,you know,feedback on yes,we’d like to do that.Well it had been tried a couple of times.Ben Pinkney down at Wild Wing in Myrtle Beach called me probably three years before that and he wanted to do an association and he wanted to have a meeting with all three vendors and the format he wanted to,to have sounded more like a w e coming off the top rope.Deal.It didn’t sound like anything productive for technicians.It sounded like it was gonna be a,you know,a firing squad.And,and I told him,I said,man,I will support you from our end any way you want to.He said,I said,I’ll,Back in this day,I’ll buy the stamps,mail,the envelopes.We didn’t have email list.I said,we’ll,uh,we’ll buy lunch.I’ll do anything you wanna do,host it.I said,but I think it’s very important that you don’t have any distributor personnel on your board.It needs to be about technicians and not about.Equipment manufacturers or distributors or colors or anything.It needs to be about technicians.
Trent Manning: 44:04
Mm-hmm.
Greg Womble: 44:05
I said,so I’ll support you,but I don’t wanna be on the front of it.And I don’t think you need to have,you know,your Toro salesman or your dear salesman,or your Jake salesman on your board.I,I think you need to own it.And he got kind of mad and he never really did anything with it.And I,I think I kind of ticked him off probably.But It so it never went anywhere.And at the same time,Virginia was having the Old Dominion Association and Nick Hammer was on that board and I told him the same thing.And I,I did,I supported him and,uh,paid for things and helped with the mailing list.And did,you know,I’ll come do classes,we’ll do whatever we need to do,
Trent Manning: 44:41
Mm-hmm.
Greg Womble: 44:42
but it didn’t have any traction cuz it didn’t have superintendents backing because they were scared.We’re networking for pay increases or we’re networking gonna get stolen,you know,all that stuff.And that was never the intent as far as I could see it.Now,I’m sure there was somebody in there that had that in mind,but I,it was never the intent from our end.So when Rex did that,because he was president of the Carolinas at the time,we had enough traction.To get support.He,he,he could spread that message to the group at the annual meeting and the local meetings.And we started to get a little bit of traction.And we finally,and,and today,Tim Krieger,if it weren’t for,for Kim’s support and,and Tim Krieger’s support,we wouldn’t be where we are.And I just,I,I feel so strongly about that cuz I’ve seen,I’ve seen it do so much good for so many people professionally,personally.I,it just,you know,I,I’m,I’m proud to be part of it.And,and I think that,If it weren’t for that little period of time there where we could get a little bit of traction,I don’t know.That would be where it is now.Because every association that I’ve been a part of in the Carolinas and Virginias either fizzled,you know,flamed for a while and went out kinda like a birthday candle or something,it just,there was no continuity but being,being an actual chapter Which,uh,we’ll work it out with the national,but being a chapter of Carolina is that,and,and then having Kim to be able to administer it.Cuz I’m telling you,there’ve been times when we’ve got12directors and board members on a conference call and we all have a d d and we got the best ideas in the world and we have all these great intentions.Nothing ever gets done.That’s just the way we are.Well,she holds your feet to the fire.She’s like you said you were gonna have a newsletter
Trent Manning: 46:43
right,right.
Greg Womble: 46:44
So April I’m calling you.
Trent Manning: 46:46
Uhhuh.
Greg Womble: 46:47
And,and that keeps you,keeps us going.And without that you know,the association would only be as good as what we are.And we’re great ideas and no follow through.That’s just the way it’s always been.
Trent Manning: 47:03
Why don’t,I mean,it is kinda comical,but that’s a hundred percent true,and I’m so guilty.I do it all the time.I have all these great ideas that I want to do and I just don’t have the follow through.And I’m surprised I’m doing a podcast right now with you,
Greg Womble: 47:19
Oh man,you’re killing me.Yeah,you you’re doing it
Trent Manning: 47:23
But I mean,I got a lot of other ideas that I want to implement,but I just,I don’t have the follow through and I really need a Kim in my back pocket to hold me accountable and,uh,help me with a lot of this stuff.Yeah,no,yeah,Kim’s excellent.Yeah,she’s awesome.I love working with her over the last couple years anyway,and getting to know her and,uh,what Krieger does.I mean,he’s just so passionate about all of.They’re members and,uh,I mean,and him coming to speak at the Ttac
Greg Womble: 47:58
He,he’s done that every year,except I think one that I can remember when something happened and he got hung up,but he makes it a point to come over there like,and,and,and good for him for being that much of a,and I’d say politician,but that,that’s slighting him.And that’s not it.He’s got passion for it,but he is making sure he shakes every hand and kisses every baby.He,he does it and.That’s not always been done.Like,and,and he’s done for our association that even financially,like we,Kim,Kim was doing that,not pro bono on her end,but he was paying her to do that.Which is,which is big.I mean that,that says a lot.
Trent Manning: 48:38
Yep.It does.No,y’all have great association in the Carolinas for sure.And Ttac too.And I plan on being there every year
Greg Womble: 48:46
Come on,man.
Trent Manning: 48:47
what,
Greg Womble: 48:48
than more to
Trent Manning: 48:48
whether y’all need me or not,I just,I,I,I enjoy it.I,I enjoy the fellowship and,you know,getting to meet other people and hanging out and talking shop.That’s what it’s all about.It’s good stuff.Anything else you wanna talk about before we get into some rapid fire?
Greg Womble: 49:06
I don’t know.You don’t want me rambling.
Trent Manning: 49:08
Okay.All right.That’s f.Fair enough.Well,let’s do some rapid fire questions.
Greg Womble: 49:18
All right.
Trent Manning: 49:19
What’s your favorite movie?
Greg Womble: 49:21
Yeah,so I saw those questions.I,it’s kinda like music.I’m a music who I listened to,uh,like so much,I can’t nail it down,but back when I remember the first movie that I watched and,and got,and it.Pressed me that I was getting it.And it’s a stupid movie way before your time,but it was called Blazing Saddles and they could not make that movie today.
Trent Manning: 49:48
Oh,no,no.I’ve seen that.Yes.
Greg Womble: 49:51
but I
Trent Manning: 49:51
been before my time,but
Greg Womble: 49:53
I was
Trent Manning: 49:53
that was a classic
Greg Womble: 49:54
traveling the summer and we were in the horns motel or something when Daddy went,uh,and they had,uh,Movie.Like you paid a dollar in the hotel back in the day and you could watch it three times.It came on back to back and I watched that movie like three times in a row.Laughing.It’s knowing the jokes are coming
Trent Manning: 50:11
Yeah.
Greg Womble: 50:11
and I,I thought about it.Well,I hadn’t thought of that movie forever,but,but I’m the same way with movies,man.Any,anything with Clint Eastwood and it’s gonna be good.old brother wear art.I like,you can’t like,just.I have a genre I like,but not a particular one.It’s,
Trent Manning: 50:29
All right.Fair enough.What would be your last meal?
Greg Womble: 50:33
if this was gonna be my last meal.I’d eat a never ending buffet probably,and then I’d have to end it probably with some chicken fried steak and white gravy on the side,like I ate every time I leave Texas.That’s the last meal I eat when I leave from Texas.
Trent Manning: 50:46
Okay.All right.Awesome.I love it.What are you most proud of besides your family?
Greg Womble: 50:54
I,I’m most proud of the,the growth of people that I’ve been able to work with beside or work for me in this business.Like I,it’s like I told you before,it’s,for me,it’s sort of a,being part of an underdog team and I’ve had some people that have probably done more.Then a lot of their peers or people around them would’ve expected them to be able to do.And I,you know,I’m,I’m proud of that.They,not that I had anything to do with it,if,if I did it was probably in a minuscule way,but to be able to be beside it and watch it,just like these assistants I’ve got,I call’em kids,they’re not kids.Both of’em just had kids in the last two years.But,
Trent Manning: 51:36
Mm-hmm.
Greg Womble: 51:36
but they’re young men and,and being able to be part of,you know,every now and then they’ll come in here to come in the shop to bitch and moan about something and.
Trent Manning: 51:47
Mm-hmm.
Greg Womble: 51:48
To be able to kind of put it in perspective and,and tell them,look,man,youth is wasted on the young.Take care of yourself.Don’t,you know,to,to try to do what people have tried to do to me,to kind of be a mentor or something that I,I’m proud of that and watching them grow and get to where they’ve been and where and where they’re gonna continue to go.I’m proud that I ev you know,Two weeks ago was my birthday,and I’ve got people that I worked with that I can’t remember my own birthday.If somebody didn’t tell me happy birthday,
Trent Manning: 52:18
Mm-hmm.
Greg Womble: 52:19
and,and they’ll call me to tell me happy birthday.Like,
Trent Manning: 52:22
That’s awesome.
Greg Womble: 52:23
that’s cool that I’m,I,I guess I made an impression.But that’s,you know,that’s a cool thing.That’s to have somebody think enough of you to remember that is a really cool thing.
Trent Manning: 52:33
Mm-hmm.
Greg Womble: 52:34
But it’s,it’s watching it,it’s seeing the growth in other people,and that’s,that’s the
Trent Manning: 52:39
No.Yeah,no,that is awesome.It is.Yeah.And it’s so rewarding.Yeah.No,no.No matter how much,you know,you helped somebody out or,or whatever.Just seeing somebody grow and get better,
Greg Womble: 52:52
Yep.
Trent Manning: 52:53
that’s hard to beat.For sure.And we’ll end with a quick story that you reminded me of.I reached out to a fellow mechanic.Here.It was in November and I sent him a text and I said,happy birthday.Hope you have a good day.And you know what?He replies back and he says,well,thank you.My birthday until April.I don’t know why,but it come up in my phone.It was his birthday,so,
Greg Womble: 53:22
You’re,I’m just always ahead of the game,brother.
Trent Manning: 53:24
I said,right.I wanted to be six months early.That’s the way I,that’s the way I operate up here.So luckily,uh,so I changed it in my phone and,uh,uh,gave him a happy birthday on his birthday.Maybe it was March or something.It was a few weeks ago.But,yeah,so anyway,I was way early.Well,thank you so much,Greg.This has been a blast,as it always is,and,uh,I appreciate.I appreciate what you’re doing with Ttac and if anybody’s got any information or wants any information on tac,just reach out to the Carolina Association probably
Greg Womble: 54:02
Yeah,you,um,the,the
Trent Manning: 54:04
talk to Kim.
Greg Womble: 54:06
That would be the most efficient way.We’ve got a website,ttac.net and and org.We’re trying to get back.There’s an ownership problem,something with the original website,but,but like always,we’re not,she’s not in charge of that and we don’t,it’s,it’s not a great site as far as being up to date.
Trent Manning: 54:24
Mm-hmm.
Greg Womble: 54:25
So,And that’s what,that’s an important tool.
Trent Manning: 54:28
Yeah.Oh yeah,for sure.
Greg Womble: 54:30
wasn’t,there wasn’t a drawer in my toolbox back in the day for networking,but it’s an important tool.
Trent Manning: 54:34
That’s,that’s exactly right.Well,thank you Greg.I hope you have a good evening and uh,look forward to talking to you soon.
Greg Womble: 54:41
Appreciate it anytime,Trent.Keep up the good work brother.
Trent Manning: 54:49
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