Meet the laid-back equipment manager from The Dunes Golf and Beach Club in Myrtle Beach – Chad Kintzer. Chad is a self-described big kid whose dad was a mechanic too. Chad served his country in the United States Army before starting his career as an auto mechanic in a local garage. After tiring of the people side of the auto tech business, Chad transitioned to building firetrucks before finding his way to the golf course. In his free time Chad enjoys cooking and smoking meats, living the dad life coaching his kids’ sports teams and now getting run ragged in his new role as grandpa.
Transcript
Trent Manning:
welcome to the reel turf techs podcast for the technician that wants to get reel follow along. As we talk to industry professionals and address hot topics that we all face along the way we’ll learn tips and tricks. I’m your host, Trent. Manning let’s have some Welcome to the real turf text podcast, episode 45. Today, we’re talking to Chad cancer. Equivalent manager at the dunes golf and beach club in Myrtle beach, South Carolina. The dunes is an 18 hole semi-private club. With the members limiting the outside play. Chad is the sole technician in a shop. And he has mostly Toro equipment. Let’s talk to Chad. welcome Jan to the real turf tax podcast. How you doing today?
Chad Kintzer:
I’m doing great.
Trent Manning:
And it’s great seeing you. I know we just saw each other last week. It’s good to see you again. tell us how you got into the turf.
Chad Kintzer:
Basically it was everybody else did same kind of thing. out well. My dad was always a mechanic, So I’ve told this story before. When we did the thing over to shop it’s just always turning wrenches with him forever, since I was a little I remember I was thinking about it today. When I was little, we used to build BMX bikes all the time and I’d always take them apart replace the Sprockets and bearings and stuff. And I got older, graduated from high school and went in the military. I wanted to go in as a mechanic when you go into the recruiter and stuff, They try to get you to go in for whatever they need. And so I told them, I said, oh I want to go in as his mechanic. He was like, all right. He goes, I’ll tell you what Why don’t you go in as a combat engineer? You’re basically in the motor pool working on equipment all the time. Anyway. I’m like, okay, cool. Why Nan? It had nothing to do with any kind of mechanics and out of the army, I go right into work and in a garage right out of the military, And I just hated dealing with people more and stuff I’m just, I don’t mind talking to people, but like dealing with people like that, where I’ve the town I grew up in. They’re all cheap. They want something for nothing. So I’m just like, I can’t do this anymore. And I got out of that and started building firetrucks and I was doing that for, I don’t know, maybe a year and the company was. Falling apart, they were selling off pieces of the company and stuff. And just so happened. My one best friend did tree work on the golf course. And he’s Hey man, he said, they’re looking for a mechanic out there. He said, you think something you want to do. And you know how it is all my friends on the firetruck place. I’m like, how hard can it be to a fricking sharpen, a couple of the lawnmower blade. It was around the exact same time when the GIS was going on. so the superintendent that hired me he was at GIS. What I’m calling him every day. I’m like, and Terry Bennett, the assistant at the time he’s answering the phone every day. I’m calling. He’s no, he’s not back yet. try back again. And he didn’t tell me try back next week. try back again. And I just kept calling him. Finally, he called me up and I went out and interviewed and they hired. Yes, the rest is history. I’ve been doing it for so long and it’s I didn’t have anybody there when I started, it was just me. There was no mechanic. He had already gone and I didn’t know at all what I was getting into. But it was good. We figured it out.
Trent Manning:
how’d you learn the real technology and how to grind and Jarvin bed knives and all that.
Chad Kintzer:
When I worked in the garage, we did resurfacing, rotors and stuff. So I was used to using the machines and that type of measuring it with the calibers and taking off not a lot, a little bit at a time. That’s where I picked it up at and they always have. You know, Like classes and stuff, grinding classes. We have the same thing I have now at my shop, my current shop, we had express through all real grinder and then we had a fully bed knife grinder so that’s what I had started on and that’s what I use now. And like I said, I would just go, like they had a little Bernhard would go out and do classes here and there so I went to those and stuff. The rest of you just figure it out as you go.
Trent Manning:
Yeah, but luckily for me, I had somebody to show me the ropes. Show me how to grind a real and adjust real to bed knife and all that stuff. So I would think going in with no knowledge, that would be tough, figuring all that out on your own.
Chad Kintzer:
Yeah. I’m pretty good at figuring stuff out. There was no books or anything around that. The internet was there, but it was all dial up and really slow. So I had less knowledge about the internet than I do now. I dunno, I just figured it out. You know what I mean? Like I said, I went to a couple of those seminars, the grinding seminars, and that was really helpful teaching you when they express through walls to keep it grinding. The whole way through you don’t let a spark out. And obviously the bed knives are different. You want those to spark out, so it’s nice and clean the whole way across and stuff. I honestly didn’t know anything about diameter until I had our fairway mower, the reels, it was cutting so bad and I’m just like, what the heck? And I’m looking it up and I’m like, oh my God, no wonder. It’s so far under. The circumference that is supposed to be on, we replaced the reels on it, brought it back to perfect again,
Trent Manning:
while to remember here. And when I first got in the industry, That you could take a real down to the spotters that was industry standard. that I first learned. So now I’m
Chad Kintzer:
Yeah.
Trent Manning:
I don’t think you can go quite that far, but people used to say,
Chad Kintzer:
I’m sure I had some pretty darn close.
Trent Manning:
yeah, that’s lovely. Walk us through your daily shoppers.
Chad Kintzer:
it’s just the basic routine I come in the morning. I try to get there. I don’t know. Maybe. Half an hour, 45 minutes before the guys, this. time of the year, I’m there about an hour before they bumped their time back, they start at six 30. So I can usually get there around five 30 or so. I’ll open up my shop and turn the heat on. Cause we turned the heat off, out there for the evening, unlocked my toolbox opened up my office, the parts room and everything and get dressed. And then I’ll go. The assistant’s usually there when I get there, he’s the first one there every morning, he gets there way early and just sits in the office Liza, bookworm, reading, all kinds of stuff on agronomy and stuff. And I’ll go in and talk to him and find out what exactly we’re doing for today. Usually I have a general idea, especially in season cause it’s always the same thing. Pretty much Monday is where to cut top dress wednesdays saying we go Monday, Wednesday, Friday greens. We mow every day. So I’ll know everything that’s going out, I’ll walk through the cold storage and make sure all the equipment, all the errors. No, there’s no flat tires or anything. And you’ll have something in the shop that needs to be worked on in the morning. So then I’ll just start working on that till all the guys get in and once they all start coming talk with those guys for a little bit and try to build those relationships, cause it’s just getting to keep a relationship with those guys and they feel they can talk to you. Then it’s a lot easier for them to come to you with broken equipment.
Trent Manning:
Really good point that you just made about just going in and talking to the crew members do about whatever you know about life or whatever. And like you’re saying, just really building that relationship. And I think that does open them up to if they have a problem with something they’re more likely to talk to you as a good point. I like it.
Chad Kintzer:
And that’s my philosophy my whole life. What I deal with I deal with the suppliers that I feel are my. You know, Because I think in my mind anyway, that they’re going to go above and beyond for me. So why wouldn’t that be the same way with the crew? If I feel like they feel I’m their friend and I’m their friend vice versa, then why wouldn’t they be the same way that my suppliers would be? They don’t want to break the equipment. They come in, they feel bad about something that happens. You know what I mean? So obviously to me, the way my thought process is they’re going to take better care. Clean and better and be more cautious and take pride in keeping everything the way it’s supposed to be.
Trent Manning:
No. That’s awesome. Do you relief grind?
Chad Kintzer:
Do not. I have a express through all. I was actually looking at that the other day when I was listening to your podcast on Monday and I had a fairway mower on the lift and I was looking at it with my, just my a three degree or four degree, whatever they express the wall puts on it. And I had about, I don’t know, I didn’t measure it, but I would say it’s probably, I don’t know, 30, 40 thousands of the fall area. And then the back half of the reel was black or it wasn’t touching the bed knife and. I grind. I don’t feel like I grind any more than anybody else, but I think, I feel like I grind? before it even needs to be around. You know what I mean? Like as soon as I feel it’s not cutting at all not at all. Like it’s fallen off just a tiny little bit I put them on the grinder. I was telling Justin, when we were at that steel thing, I said, that’s what I said I ground my fairway mowers. Helen. Reels. They were literally went back and forth three times back and forth over it. And I checked them and they were perfect. And the same thing with a bed knife, there is No. lip on the edge or nothing. I don’t really, I don’t backlash anything. I just grind it, so I try to stay on top of everything with that.
Trent Manning:
Gotcha.
Chad Kintzer:
Then again, like for me, I’m a firm believer. Like I know you say all the time or no, no judgment zone or whatever. That’s how I feel about everything. You know what I mean? Like to me, I told you all before the guy down the road, doesn’t grind, bed knives at all. He doesn’t have a bent knife grinder, if that’s what it’s superintendents happy with, then whenever it coming. That’s good.
Trent Manning:
Yeah. Yeah. And it all depends on the operation, your budget. All those things factor and you then to, to the, and I remember one offer started in the shop, so this was 97. We didn’t have a bed, not grinder. I didn’t even know there was such thing as a bed enough grinder. And we put on a, that was the crazy thing when we would. Aerify greens or something like that. And we would go
Chad Kintzer:
Okay.
Trent Manning:
and sand and then bring the mother in and lap it until that bed NOP was gone, put on a new bed knife lap it, and that bed off my begone. It was just crazy.
Chad Kintzer:
Less, what would happen when I first started at my job in Pennsylvania, the superintendent was there. They would go. And we would most sand and then we bring it back in. He goes, oh, you just got a lapping. It’ll go back in. And I’d freaking be lap in there for half an hour putting stuff on it. And I’m like this ain’t cutting for nothing. So I just pull it off and grind it, and it’s
Trent Manning:
I know times have changed a lot
Chad Kintzer:
oh yeah.
Trent Manning:
have changed.
Chad Kintzer:
So for sure,
Trent Manning:
Everybody’s pushing the envelope and they want to get it lower and Moe at top hotter hots and all that stuff.
Chad Kintzer:
That’s why we do what we do.
Trent Manning:
As they’re at tell us something you’ve fabricated lately.
Chad Kintzer:
The last thing I did would have been those barrels put those on the WhatsApp. I’m working on a couple of things right now. I’m trying to make a roller for the greens. One that you can push this like three. Like almost a triplex, That is where that Y that you can just roll to doc to do off
Trent Manning:
you hadn’t seen.
Chad Kintzer:
did you make one
Trent Manning:
Yeah, I might. One day. I’ll have to send you a picture.
Chad Kintzer:
sweet.
Trent Manning:
Yeah. I might want, I don’t, I’m trying to remember. And I’ll one, the DCI I tweet up what year was this? 20 18, 29, 20 19. Maybe might’ve been 2020.
Chad Kintzer:
I might even have a picture of it.
Trent Manning:
I think it was 2020 there, I know there’s a picture on Twitter. If anybody is interested and was kinda the thing, says, I need a way to get, do off the grains. And they were using a 36 inch squeegee and I wouldn’t cut in it, all the undulations and all that. So that was the idea I had as a trapline. So I just made three frames and they all ended up. Of each other with a little T handle it folds up when you’re done. So yeah, I’ll send you a picture
Chad Kintzer:
Yeah I got her a bunch of stuff. I just haven’t had time yet. But what we do is when it’s really the role with the roller, which that’s much heavier. So obviously you’re in to this time of the year. You don’t really want to do that. Increase the speed. So they usually, what we’ve been doing lately is sending out the brushes and we have these real wide brushes that we use to brush the sand. And when we popped dress and asked what they take out of course that stands the grass up so that’s why I was like if I’m making this. Not the do down and it won’t put any more speed on the greens.
Trent Manning:
No, that’s awesome. What’s your favorite tool?
Chad Kintzer:
Oh man. I’m a tool freak. I got to buy. My wife used to get so mad at me for buying tools. When I worked in the garage, anytime I would use anything, even the shop tools, I’d be like, oh, I gotta buy that. Cause the same thing, when I started at the job here, my boss was like, oh, you don’t need to bring your toolbox. I’m like, no, I’m bringing my toolbox. But I dunno, I guess my stream light, I have a little rechargeable stream light and it’s I don’t know. 250,000 lumen or something. I don’t know. It’s pretty bright, but it’s real small. It fits in your pocket. Like in not the little pocket when you put in that your
Trent Manning:
Yeah. Yeah.
Chad Kintzer:
But it’s little enough that I can fit it in my pants. If I take it places And it’s nothing is super bright. If I need to see something once you get older, you need to see light in order to see better. So I shine out under there, man, you could lights up the whole underneath the mower and it works great. I love that thing.
Trent Manning:
And once you get used to that, you can’t go without it.
Chad Kintzer:
Nope. I even try to use my little pocket streamline and it’s just with the two double A’s or triple A’s and it’s not bright enough. The other one out and it’s it’s so much better.
Trent Manning:
Yeah. Yeah, I’ve carried a pocket flashlight and I carried a streamline stylist pro for a long time, which might be the one you’re talking about. I don’t remember, but I
Chad Kintzer:
Yeah.
Trent Manning:
a stream lot wedge back this summer. And this rechargeable is really brat. I really lack it. But one thing I don’t like about it is the design. fit in your mouth as well. So that can be a pain with the little stylish pro with it being round, and I wear a hat every day, you could stick it between your head and your hat and they, without sticking in your mouth and all that. That’s the most sanitary thing to do all the time with everything else, but I’m sure we’ve started worth it. Worst things in our mouth before.
Chad Kintzer:
Oh, for sure. With her hands, all greasy.
Trent Manning:
What do you do to relax or find your balance?
Chad Kintzer:
I just, I like to cook, whatever. I love making stuff on my smoker. I’m actually working on building the shelf for right now that folds down for the front of it and the side. And that was up just my one, buddy. We just went up and we were looking, I’m going to make a cutting board instead of buying one, I’m looking for like black Walnut or something and I’m going to make like a cutting board. Or back when I was younger and my kids were younger, I used to coach them. Now that, that was my thing back then, like kids, we got, we actually adopted twins when they were little, two year old. They weren’t quite two year old when we adopted them. They were a little bit smaller than that. But and just from little on up we coached them. I should say I coached him. My wife hated it. She didn’t want nothing to do with it, but I coached them both in all their sports soccer, basketball, football whatever solver, softball, whatever they played. I always was there helping them, coaching them and. Whatever. We’d always buy them, like little stuff, the ride around in the yard, four wheelers and dirt bikes and stuff. So it’s always, now I have a granddaughter, so it was the same deal we were just down there this weekend with our granddaughter. So
Trent Manning:
Oh, that’s awesome. How far away do they live?
Chad Kintzer:
Somerville is like two hours.
Trent Manning:
That’s good. Maybe close enough.
Chad Kintzer:
Yeah, it’s a little pain in the boat when we have to go. If we drive down just for the day, like this weekend, went down and stay the whole weekend down there. So we just, we got a hotel room and stay down there, but usually we’ll just drive down for the day and hang out and run around like idiots all day long, cause she’s two, and three months, four months now maybe. And she just so fast and running around, man. It’s
Trent Manning:
You forget, where did they get all that energy? It’s amazing.
Chad Kintzer:
back and I’m like, I got to sit down and relax for the rest of the day. I can’t do nothing. I’m too fat and old for this stuff.
Trent Manning:
Bloody. Do you follow Dan Francis on Twitter?
Chad Kintzer:
No, I don’t really go on Twitter? a
Trent Manning:
Yeah. You’re near, not on Twitter a lot.
Chad Kintzer:
I don’t really post anything on Twitter, but I go on there now, since I’ve met you and a bunch of the other people that are always on there, I try to log onto it every day and look and see what everybody’s posting and stuff. But no, I don’t periodically. I don’t ever put anything on it. Same thing with Facebook. I don’t really put much on there.
Trent Manning:
Diane Francis has a thing with shark cootie boards, the sharpshooter e-board.
Chad Kintzer:
Yeah,
Trent Manning:
Yeah, it’s impossible to say. They’ve a lot of funny stuff on Twitter a sharpshooter board. So I was just wondering, you said you’re making a cutting board. Could you make a sharpshooter board?
Chad Kintzer:
I’m sure I could. This is my first attempt at a cutting board, so I wish the light. I wish it was that I could probably go out and show you my like shelves out in the
Trent Manning:
Yeah.
Chad Kintzer:
They’re pretty nice, man. I got it’s a, they’re a Cedar with a live edge. So then I took them and they were just rough cut. Two inches thick, rough cut. So I took them in my one. I don’t have any, I’m not at all a carpenter. So my one friend left me, borrow a belt sander and a Palm sander and stuff. And I sanded the crap out everything and made it as smooth as I could. And then I went and I got some polyurethane and just posted the whole thing in polyurethane. They look really good. My wife, she was looking at them the other day in the garage. She goes, those look way too nice to put on that stupid smoker. She goes
Trent Manning:
So what kind of smoker do you have?
Chad Kintzer:
Weber, pellet grill.
Trent Manning:
Okay.
Chad Kintzer:
I have actually two of them. I have a little Masterbuilt propane smoker too, but since I got the pellet grill that’s all I really use. I think it’s freaking awesome. It’s like
Trent Manning:
of the Pellegrin
Chad Kintzer:
it’s a smoke fire.
Trent Manning:
smoke fire. That’s what I was trying to think. Smoke fire.
Chad Kintzer:
Yeah.
Trent Manning:
two sizes, right? A big one on a sizes, right? A big one on a
Chad Kintzer:
Yup, Yup. Yup. Oh that’s part of my problem. The same thing with the tools go big or go home.
Trent Manning:
That’s right, exactly right. Yes. That was awesome.
Chad Kintzer:
Yeah.
Trent Manning:
the strangest thing you’ve seen at work. You got a funny story.
Chad Kintzer:
Yeah, actually this’ll lead into the next thing, probably. I’ve been trying for years to get a chapter for T tech here in Myrtle beach, which is where I live. So we went up to that steel class. You were there up in Eric’s and I’m like, you know what? This is awesome. I said, if I could text these guys that I know down. And find out if they’d be interested in going to a class like this, be a good segue into getting them to try to join T TAC and create a chapter down here at the beach. Constantly thinking about how to try to do this, and I never can get any response out to anybody. So I texted, I don’t know. It was maybe 20 guys. Couple of them respond back. Yeah, man, that’d be awesome. That’s great. All of a sudden. One of the guys texts in there and I’m going to try to just abbreviate the language. He goes, you’re stupid, stop texting me. I’m trying to effing sleep. And I’m texting. I don’t know who this is. Honestly, these numbers that I got just mechanics that I met at a grinding seminar over at the member’s club, probably two and a half or three years ago.
Trent Manning:
Okay.
Chad Kintzer:
have all their numbers written down, so I just add an amend to my phone. So I just go through and I look up all their courses and I punch them in and that’s how I do the group text. So I’m like me, I’m a terrible person when it comes to stuff like that. If somebody says something like that I’m not going to be in trouble. Jerk to him, but I’m going to be like a kind of sideways jerk. Like I’m going to make it worse by trying to sound like I’m trying to make it better. so I typed in ha then. So somebody else texts something else and then he texted back. something, some curse word, Yankee mother efforts.
Trent Manning:
Wow.
Chad Kintzer:
I was like, damn, I’m like, okay, so me, I don’t leave stuff alone. Like I’m like what’s, this guy’s deal. He’s used to be a mechanic at least at one of the golf courses. Cause I have this number. So one of the other guys was texting the same. And not cursing and stuff, but he’s I’m trying to get out of this. You guys got the wrong number and I texted him and here he’s still working on a golf course and he just didn’t understand what was happening. So he was like, oh, that’s cool, man. Yeah, I’m interested. And I’m like, okay. So I texted this other guy back. I said, Hey man. I said, I just want to let you know, I’m sorry for waking you up. I said it wasn’t trying to do nothing. I’m just trying to make Ella, the guys around here, better mechanics by having classes and stuff for everybody whatever this and that. And he must have blocked me because he never got back to me. But that was like, I was like, I wish it was the funniest thing that ever happened to me through text message. I was just like, can you believe that? This guy he was up one side and down the other I have his name. I remembered I still have his phone number. I’m like, I’m not getting rid of it.
Trent Manning:
that’s flooding. What is one of your pet peeves around the shop?
Chad Kintzer:
I try not to say anything. Cause again, I’m trying not to be the jerk at work, but when people park in front of the garage, When you’re trying to work and people continually pull up in front of the garage door and they think they gotta be right there in front of the garage door, where you need to get in and out and work on stuff. And the same thing on Fridays, we try to do like a Friday where we clean up and stuff and clean the cards and they continually park them in front of the garage door to go in and out of the cold storage. And every week I’m like, guys just park them off to the side so I can get in and out. Now it’s a big joke to them. So they just park them in front of the door on purpose.
Trent Manning:
I don’t purpose this to mess with you. Good. Better.
Chad Kintzer:
Oh, yeah.
Trent Manning:
No, I agree. That’s one of my pet peeves I can’t stand it.
Chad Kintzer:
Yeah.
Trent Manning:
we park in front of the door. I’ll get on your car and take it to the other side of the building or take it out the closest hole there to the course zone number five. Sometimes I’ll take it out of the five T, which is a 300 yard walk. Just depends on if I need the exercise or I’m feeling good that day. I might just drive it all the way out there.
Chad Kintzer:
Yeah, it depends on what kind of,
Trent Manning:
my car. Oh, left it over on five T they’re like, what? How did I drove it over there?
Chad Kintzer:
Yeah. it depends on what kind of mood I’m in.
Trent Manning:
Yeah.
Chad Kintzer:
If I do something like that or not, if I’m in a bad mood and they’re doing it and I’m having a rough day, then I might do something like that. But try not to, I try to just and I tell all the guys, same thing I’ll be like, look, I’ll tell you a couple of times, but if I have to tell you a third time, it’s not going to be the nice way. I’m not going to be polite and I’m not going to tell you nicely I’m tired of telling you over and over again I’ll be nice and I’ll be your friend two times when, after that forget about it
Trent Manning:
We’re not friends anymore.
Chad Kintzer:
while we’re still friends. But at that moment,
Trent Manning:
What would be your dream job or opportunity?
Chad Kintzer:
I don’t know, we were just talking about this the other day. I’d like to coach some kids at basketball or something like that. You know what I mean? That wouldn’t be a job. There’s no way, I don’t think I could turn that into any kind of career, but I just love being around kids and I think one of my downfalls, I was, I’m a, too much of a big kid, a lot. I like to joke around a little too much sometimes. So I know kids and I get along real well. Like I, cause I’m always saying we’re on the same level,
Trent Manning:
Yeah. Yep. No, that’s good. Yeah, don’t be so hard on yourself. There’s nothing wrong with joking and laughing and having a good time. You got to keep it locked.
Chad Kintzer:
Oh, I know. I know. But sometimes it’s just a little too much and I try to be self-conscious of myself when I’m being too much. I try to look at everybody when I’m doing acting like an idiot and I’m trying to look at everybody’s faces to make sure everybody’s still laughing and it’s not like just a laugh to try and make me feel good
Trent Manning:
Make sure that you’re not the elephant in the room.
Chad Kintzer:
which I’m probably, usually am. And I just don’t know. Like poor Kayla at the freaking thing. When I kept saying she was the one that may be driving the wrong fence.
Trent Manning:
Oh yeah. You were definitely giving her a hard time, but she was razzing you back. So
Chad Kintzer:
Oh yeah.
Trent Manning:
in with us.
Chad Kintzer:
Oh yeah. She’s good.
Trent Manning:
what do you know now? You wish you’d known on day one.
Chad Kintzer:
Probably exactly that. That’s one. of the things that I think I got a lot better at was I used to take everything way too seriously. I would get angry and frustrated easily. I even now I think back then I still dealt with it pretty good, but it wasn’t as good as what I do now, because right now I just let stuff roll off my shoulders, what are you going to do? That’s your job. That’s what you’re supposed to do. Fix it. As long as it doesn’t continue to happen then what’s the big deal. Fix it and move on.
Trent Manning:
No, that’s a good attitude. I can’t say, I think I’ve got better I’ve gotten older. That’s I asked some of the people on the crew. They might tell you different, but they didn’t know me 20 years ago, either. I was a real high. I did. So it comes with age.
Chad Kintzer:
Oh, yeah, for sure.
Trent Manning:
What are some of your latest tips and tricks you want to share with us?
Chad Kintzer:
I don’t really have any tips or tricks. Maybe just advice in exactly that just. Let it roll off your shoulders. It’s not like we’re doing brain surgery or anything out there it’s not life or death and make sure you help the guy out down the street. I’m at a pretty good position where I’m at Right. now. I’m at a really nice, beautiful golf course. We got. Unlimited resources if I need them pretty much. So I don’t mind helping out than other guy. And there’s plenty of times I call people for help. And don’t get me wrong. I’m not saying I wouldn’t, I’m certainly not above calling anybody for alibi call for help, way more than anybody’s ever called me for help. As far as parts or anything like that if you get in a bind there’s plenty of people, don’t be afraid to pick the phone up and just call them and ask. Same thing with at work is don’t be afraid to ask for stuff if you need a tire changer or tools or whatever it might be don’t be afraid to go and ask for it.
Trent Manning:
Yeah, that’s real good. Real good point. I gave a talk at the Alabama course superintendents association. And there was a very limited number of technicians there, which was a little disappointing. And the club we were at, their technicians not there, which I was surprised. Just crazy. So we’ve got a long way to go, to get more people involved, to be more involved in our industry. You’re already in the industry, you’re doing the work, get involved and I promise you it’ll be more enjoyable.
Chad Kintzer:
Oh, put and I’m telling you the best thing that I ever did by far was go to east lake where I met you at.
Trent Manning:
Really
Chad Kintzer:
Oh. Oh. Um, Since, My entire career. I bet you, that was probably the best thing I ever did. Just, and just networking alone, meeting you WhatsApp group and all the guys that I met everything that we’ve done since I’ve been there I got so many ideas from that place over there at that tournament. I came back, my boss, Steve, he was probably freaking oh, you’re never going again because I was like, oh my, I said, I need one of these tire machines. We need to get this. We need to do that. And it’s just not me, not anybody out there, if you can work a tournament ever and have any kind of chance to go jump on it, because that’s I’m telling you, it was the most fun. It was just meeting you guys alone. The resources that I have at my hand now, compared to what I had before I went there is like second to none.
Trent Manning:
Yeah, hands down. The listeners, if you can volunteer at any club for a tournament is 100% worth it and you get back way more than you have to put in. Sometimes it’s tough. You do have to work. But it’s just so much fun. It’s hard to call it work when we’re having as much fun, cutting up with each other and joking and tearing reels apart and grinding them and them back together. But we’re all having fun while we’re doing it and we’re not goofing off. We’re getting a lot of stuff done in a short amount of time and having a blast while doing it. And you make lifelong friends. Just
Chad Kintzer:
Absolutely.
Trent Manning:
for instance. So
Chad Kintzer:
Oh yeah.
Trent Manning:
if you don’t know me and Chad met last year the tour championship for the first time and we just hit it off and been friends ever since and texts here and there, he’s in the WhatsApp group. And that’s the other good thing about the WhatsApp group. Everybody in there is really. They want to help people. That’s all we want to do is help somebody. And yeah, we might pick on you and give you a hard time and have some laughs too, but we are there to help. And tell my kids all the time, because I pick on them relentlessly. That’s the way I show my love is by picking on you, you ask the people at the stop. I don’t pick on people that I don’t like.
Chad Kintzer:
That’s exactly the same way I am. If I don’t like. you, I don’t want nothing to do with you. I’m not talking to you. I’m not nothing. If I’m giving you a whole bunch of crap it makes you sound like I don’t like you. me. That’s only because I like you. If I didn’t like it, you’d be sitting there quiet and you wouldn’t have nothing to say to you.
Trent Manning:
Exactly. Right. What Else do you want to talk about?
Chad Kintzer:
What do you want to talk about?
Trent Manning:
It’s not a trick question.
Chad Kintzer:
Are we working on any more sponsors for the show?
Trent Manning:
Not that’s a tough one. yeah, I got one more in the works. I got to do some stuff there. You want me to just talk about the sponsorship?
Chad Kintzer:
If you want to. That’s awesome. I hate it out. A bunch of your stickers today. I gave, was it yesterday? Maybe? I don’t know, yesterday or today Rankin stopped in and I handed him like 15 or 20 stickers. He’s going to hand them out. I said here, man, he goes, I said, that’s true, Trent. I, yeah, I ended up out. No problem.
Trent Manning:
Who does he work for?
Chad Kintzer:
Revels, John Deere.
Trent Manning:
John Deere. Okay. Anybody that’s listening, if you want a sponsor, bring it all, be happy to take your money.
Chad Kintzer:
Yeah. I bet you a Turner rebel would be interested in something like.
Trent Manning:
Yeah.
Chad Kintzer:
He’s big and he’s real big in the golf course. And the why introduced you to him at the show
Trent Manning:
Yeah, yeah.
Chad Kintzer:
he’s a hell of a nice guy, man. He does so much stuff for us here at the Carolinas. This is crazy. The amount of stuff that he does.
Trent Manning:
yeah.
Chad Kintzer:
I’m going to have to say something to the rank. And next time I talk to him or see if I can get ahold of Turner.
Trent Manning:
And his son
Chad Kintzer:
no? No, no ranking is ranking as the salesman for the area that I’m in down here. He’s my salesman. But he’s been with, he’s been with rebels since forever. He’s almost like a freaking fixture there. That guy’s best salesman ever. You Johnny on the spot. Do anything. If I ever have any problem, I always just call him up.
Trent Manning:
awesome.
Chad Kintzer:
Yeah.
Trent Manning:
road service? They have
Chad Kintzer:
As far as
Trent Manning:
John
Chad Kintzer:
yeah. Oh yeah. They had actually one of them just left and he’s working on will, he was, that guy was solid too. I haven’t met any of the new guys. I think Luke is the one guy’s name and I don’t remember what the other one’s name is, but I think it’s Luke. I don’t know. I haven’t met him will was my guy. When I worked over at barefoot, we had all John Deere. over there. So he would always come there. Take care of all of our stuff. So we were like real good friends like I told you, we try to be friends with them and I’d always go in. And if I knew he was coming, I’d stop and get him breakfast biscuit or whatever. He’s a good dude. He’s a good dude.
Trent Manning:
If you’re ready, I guess we’ll wrap it up.
Chad Kintzer:
Okay. I’m a, don’t want to talk everybody’s ear off the whole day long.
Trent Manning:
No we hadn’t been going that long. Really? Probably 40 minutes,
Chad Kintzer:
Oh, really?
Trent Manning:
something like that.
Chad Kintzer:
I saw for sure. I was trying to be constantly, Chad, just keep it.
Trent Manning:
Yeah. Yeah. No. It’s all good.
Chad Kintzer:
I can talk on forever about everything. Do you smoke stuff?
Trent Manning:
You don’t talk barbecue again. So hadn’t been smoking much lately. I really got into that probably. Seven or eight years ago. And I even went and my KCBS certified judge certificate. Yeah. So it’s $95 and they teach you how to eat barbecue. That’s pretty much
Chad Kintzer:
Wow.
Trent Manning:
basically BS judge certificate, but you got to have that to judge KCBS competitions and. It was really my neighbor that got me into it. And I built a ugly drum, smoker, UDS, part of those. And they’re awesome. Little cookers for what kind of money you got to put in them. They’re relatively cheap. You bet you fill the charcoal basket full using the minion method, lot it off, and it’ll run 12, 14 hours one basket of charcoal and you can’t beat that. the other thing, if you’re doing a. Shorter cook, like your cooking ribs or something for four hours when you’re pulling your meat off close the Vance, put the lid on it, snuffs the fire out, and you still got all your charcoal there. So you don’t
Chad Kintzer:
Yeah.
Trent Manning:
so what I know about barbecue.
Chad Kintzer:
What was the last thing you smoked? I know you spoke something good on that freaking ugly drunk.
Trent Manning:
I don’t the last thing. Was a Turkey
Chad Kintzer:
Oh yeah.
Trent Manning:
Turkey for?
Chad Kintzer:
Oh, I saw that you posted that on something. You had a competition.
Trent Manning:
well, so I did, I did one for Thanksgiving for my daughters because they say, dad, your Turkey has the best Turkey ever, which that just lights me up. I love it. So I always do them one. And then yeah, we had a little competition out of the shop. One of the assistants that works in the shop. He always deep fries, a Turkey, and he had some old leftover from Thanksgiving. So he tells the superintendents that if you’ll buy me a Turkey, I’ll deep fry, the crew. ’cause I got the old leftover okay. the superintendent goes a Turkey and they have it on sale, frozen turkeys, like 69 cents a pound. he buys two. So he comes back with two and I said, okay, let’s have a little competition. I’m going to split one and you can deep fry one and we’ll see who’s better. So I won hands down. His was really good. I’m not going to, it’s hard to get a crispy scan. can’t do it in a smoker,
Chad Kintzer:
Yeah, it’s tough.
Trent Manning:
deep fried,
Chad Kintzer:
Now, do you do smoke it whole or do you spatchcock it? Cut it. Cut the spine out and flat.
Trent Manning:
I’ve been smoking at home. So what I’ve been doing Brian for at least 24 hours, I inject with real butter and smoke it. And I was trying to get. Carter some advice. I said, I got some Creole butter, man. I didn’t use all of it. You don’t try something? No, I’m just going to go with my standard recipe. I don’t want change nothing. I’m like, man, you’re losing from the get-go. I did challenge him and say let’s brown it let’s inject it and let you deep fry one and see how good it is. It might be.
Chad Kintzer:
Yeah.
Trent Manning:
We’re doing all that stuff. I’d like to see. I’d like to see the experiment.
Chad Kintzer:
Yeah, I did a couple of them, not this past year, the year before. I always deep fried. And then I got the smoker, so I’m like, I’m going to smoke one and I freaking spatchcocked and put it in the smoker. And I did both of them, them injected them. Did them both exactly the same man, that freaking Turkey that I smoked, that thing was so goddarn spicy hot. Like you couldn’t even hardly eat it. It was so spicy.
Trent Manning:
Oh, wow.
Chad Kintzer:
one that, the other one that I deep fried was magnified. Like you cut the meat off of it. Everything was perfect. was crazy how different it was between the two. And I don’t know why. Obviously the one that was smoked was in the smoker for a little bit longer, but you’re going to smoke a little bit longer than what you’re going to deep fry obviously, but I don’t know why he came out so different. It was crazy. They were both good. they were both tender and juicy and ate the crap out of both of them, but
Trent Manning:
The other thing I think that would be good is if you smoke. And then deep fried it for D just flash fried it to the CRISPR, the thing up and make that skin. I think that would be lots out.
Chad Kintzer:
yeah. That’d be good. That’d be real good. I know it was man. I’m proud of you for getting the sponsorship, man. That’s good.
Trent Manning:
Thank you. Thank you very much.
Chad Kintzer:
I’m happy. Every everything is going well for you, man. It was all good for all of us. I’m happy. I was happy to hear that. I actually didn’t even get to listen to the podcast. And I saw somebody on the WhatsApp group was like, so is that a sponsorship or her beforehand? I’m like, God darn it. I’m like, and I’m busy in the shop. And I usually, what I’ll do is I’ll just throw my AirPods in and I’ll listen to the podcast. So I was like, I got to listen to it. So I threw them in and I was listening to it. I’m like, Hey, no shit. I said, there it is. He’s got a freaking sponsor. I’m like, that’s awesome. There.
Trent Manning:
Yeah. So the deal with that. Foley through GCI sponsoring 12 episodes one a month for the whole year. So that’s awesome.
Chad Kintzer:
Yeah, that’s great.
Trent Manning:
Are there sponsorship? That’s good. Yeah.
Chad Kintzer:
That makes me for you. Cause I know how much money and time you put into this man. It’s good.
Trent Manning:
it is a lot more time than I initially thought it would be, but I really love talking to everybody that I’ve interviewed. I love giving back to the industry trying to make us all better and help us all grow. That’s why we’re doing this.
Chad Kintzer:
And it’s definitely helping. Look at all the guys, I mean that we talked to and just trying to get into the industry. It’s just phenomenal. I’m sure it’s making leaps and bounds with everything. I mean everybody in it and there’s, everybody’s so knowledge. When everybody’s posting in the WhatsApp group and everybody that’s on the podcast and it’s just it’s awesome. I already told you 50 million time it’s for me, it’s like to listen to the podcast because it’s, like-minded people everybody that’s on the podcast, they’re all the same exact thoughts that we all have. We want to do and be as good as we can be everybody’s going for the same goal, and that’s, what’s awesome about this industry.
Trent Manning:
I think that’s what sets this industry apart from a lot of other industries is all of us are willing to help each other. If you need a hand, if I need a hand, whatever, we’ll hop in there and help.
Chad Kintzer:
That’s just like the same thing with the tournament volunteering at the tournament, the same exact thing. We go to learn, they have us over there to help it’s the same thing. You get to learn everything that they do, all their stuff they do, And it makes you a better person, a better mechanical, better tech.
Trent Manning:
And you might even gain a pound or two at east lake because that food is second to none that they have. It is correct.
Chad Kintzer:
it’s not even how good the food is that you get to eat. It’s everything else. There’s nonstop. It was nonstop the whole time we were there. There was snacks.
Trent Manning:
Yeah, there’s snacks in between meals.
Chad Kintzer:
their snacks before breakfast snacks, after breakfast snacks, before lunch, and then all the leftovers like, oh my.
Trent Manning:
And then I got the ice cream.
Chad Kintzer:
No it’s
Trent Manning:
The whole cooler, full asker.
Chad Kintzer:
and all the candy bars on top of it.
Trent Manning:
Yeah. That was great.
Chad Kintzer:
It’s awesome. It’s a great time over there. I’ll tell you what, that might be the best crew that I ever worked with in my entire life over there.
Trent Manning:
Yeah. I w
Chad Kintzer:
No.
Trent Manning:
with that. They’re solid.
Chad Kintzer:
There are just from top to bottom, that place is just phenomenal. As far as the crew goes. To me, that’s what sets them apart from everything else. Is the way the crew is like I said, it from the top of the bottle that’s what the difference is between. That place and say other place it’s just the crew, how much they care. Every single one of them, the mowers came in nice. And Chris he does such a good job and to shop there with him and Eric they’re both guys. Cause I told them when I went over there to work, I’m like I said, oh, I’m kinda worried. I don’t to go in and cause sometimes the mechanics are miserable. I’m like, I don’t want to go over and have be some miserable person at this place. Cause One of the top places top 100 PG championship. If anybody has a right to be arrogant or anything, it would be him in a position. That’s just not Chris or Eric for that matter.
Trent Manning:
No, they’re both really humble individuals and they’re just, they’re doing their job.
Chad Kintzer:
Oh Yeah. Same thing as everybody else.
Trent Manning:
Just like the rest of us. And we tend to put them up on pedestals or whatever, but they don’t want to be there. And for the most part, none of us want to be up on a pedestal. And for the most part, we locked being the person behind the scenes. And that’s what I really like about this podcast is we shine a lot on you for a little while, but then you can go
Chad Kintzer:
yeah.
Trent Manning:
in your corner after the pod.
Chad Kintzer:
yeah, we were getting a new general manager and I said, that’s, it’s almost a blessing and a curse, the position that we have. Because he was talking about members or whatever. I’m like, look, I said, I don’t know any of the members. said, I’m down here in my little hole. I said, I don’t see any of the members. I said, it’s a blessing and a curse. I don’t get into the accolades that I need. I don’t need any, I don’t, I’m not looking for them also I don’t get bothered. I can down here in my little hole, nobody comes down here and bothers me while I’m doing stuff. Which for me, it’s a little tough cause I like to talk.
Trent Manning:
Yes. We know that. Yeah. You’d like to talk with you about it. They like,
Chad Kintzer:
Yeah, I know.
Trent Manning:
here. I hear him talking in the distance.
Chad Kintzer:
Yeah. Like when I showed up at the,
Trent Manning:
And then bust your chops about always being around food. Oh, it’s the pizza. There’s Chad. Okay.
Chad Kintzer:
I wasn’t even the first one to get up and eat it though, that was Kayla.
Trent Manning:
Oh, yeah. Yeah. She was
Chad Kintzer:
Oh, no actually it wasn’t kale. I don’t know who it was. It was that one guy that was sitting there. I don’t know where he was from. He be like, oh, I’m hungry. I’m eating. She was the first one that jumped into those little things. Eric made though. Those things were good.
Trent Manning:
Yeah. Eric’s wife D made those. Those are so good. Little sausage croissants. Yeah, I could, I dry those.
Chad Kintzer:
tell me about it.
Trent Manning:
Alright. the listeners how they can get home.
Chad Kintzer:
Just on the WhatsApp group, they have a Twitter, but I couldn’t tell you what my Twitter thing is. Is chatty something, I think chatty 55.
Trent Manning:
or something like that.
Chad Kintzer:
Yeah. I don’t know. It can send me a message on there. Like I said, I go on try to go on every day and check it just to see what everybody’s posting or whatever, if there’s anything exciting. Usually it winds up into WhatsApp group anyway. So
Trent Manning:
it is funny the stuff we see or the stuff I see on Twitter. I ended up seeing in the watch cab grape too,
Chad Kintzer:
Yeah. Yeah.
Trent Manning:
this great,
Chad Kintzer:
When it’s cool too, on the WhatsApp group, it has everybody’s phone number in there. You don’t own the top of it. So I don’t know the one guy was asking a couple of weeks ago or last week about trying to get a chapter or whatever mechanics association over there. And I’m like, call me, just give me a call, man. I, it’s all good. I can tell you as much as I know which isn’t a whole lot, but.
Trent Manning:
And hopefully we can get some traction with that and start getting some more chapters throughout the country
Chad Kintzer:
Oh, yeah, that’d be awesome.
Trent Manning:
stuff. Thank you so much for coming on. I
Chad Kintzer:
Yeah. Thanks for having me.
Trent Manning:
Just like I knew I would. thank you for your friendship over
Chad Kintzer:
Yeah, man.
Trent Manning:
spot six months, but
Chad Kintzer:
it feels like a lot longer than that.
Trent Manning:
it does. It does. Honestly, I feel like I’ve known him my whole life and like we were saying, just volunteering at that one tournament, you never know who you’re gonna meet and gonna be friends with
Chad Kintzer:
Yeah. That’s the funny thing. I never even knew one thing about your podcast on a Scott. I didn’t know nothing. I didn’t even know who you were. And I remember getting there the day I got there and Chris and those guys were like, Hey man. Yeah. Trent’s treadmill. And he’s coming over and. I’m like, okay. I’m like, I don’t know. He’s oh, he does a podcast, and it’s really good. like, okay. And I’m like, like I said, normally for me, for podcasts, it’s like a whole bunch of people talking over each other the whole time. And yours is crisp and clean and I’m like, I started listening to it when I got back. And I’m like, man, That thing’s awesome. And I out to you pretty quickly and told you how good it was and how clean.
Trent Manning:
That was awesome. was always And then for any of the listeners that don’t know when we went to the Carolinas. You were my personal promoter promoting the podcast. Everybody we saw to add with say, Hey, he’s got a podcast. Hi, this is Trent mayhem. He’s got a podcast, which I appreciate because I’m not good at tooting my own horn. And
Chad Kintzer:
Most of us are.
Trent Manning:
yeah, that’s very true. Thanks again, buddy. I really appreciate it. And we’ll see you in the WhatsApp group. I hope you enjoyed hearing from Chad. That was so much fun. Chad’s a heck of a guy. And for whatever reason, we just hit it off. I’m so glad I got to meet him at east lake this year. And like we were saying in the podcast, if you have a chance to volunteer at. To work a tournament. It’s definitely worth it. You’ll get so much more out of it than you put in it. And you could come away with a lifelong friend, the amount of knowledge you can learn and just being able to see different ways to do the same thing that most of us are doing. Sometimes there’s an easier, better way out. And we just hadn’t saw that yet. So it was always nice to learn and see how different people do different things or the same thing. If you’re interested in the WhatsApp group, just send me a DM on Twitter or send me a email to real turf techs@gmail.com. And we’ll get you signed up and get you in there. There’s a great group of people everybody’s really positive and we’re all in there to help each other. We share our struggles, we share our successes and we keep it fun and lighthearted. And hopefully you liked Jeff’s another good point Chad made was getting to know your. And communicating with your crew and just talking to them on a personal level. And not that you have to be best friends, but if you care about the people on your crew, they’re going to care more about your equipment and just building that relationship. The better that relationship is the more likely they are to talk to you and let you know when something’s wrong, that’s just throwing it back on the shelf or parking it with something wrong. For any new listeners. Thank you for being here. And I hope you enjoy what you’re hearing. Do us a favor, go to our bio on Twitter and fill out our survey and let us know what you think. Let us know what you like. Let us know what you don’t. And we’ll make changes accordingly. If you’re interested in being on the podcast, send us an email or a DM. We’d love to have you on. We’re trying to highlight all the turf technicians throughout the world and let people know what we do. There’s not an easy job, but it sure is a whole lot of. So thank you all for listening until next time. See you. Bye. thank you so much for listening to the real turf techs podcast. I hope you learned something today. Don’t forget to subscribe. If you have any topics you’d like to discuss, or you’d like to be a guest, find us on Twitter at real turf techs.