Aaron Kirsch, Equipment Manager at Saginaw Country Club in Saginaw, MI, grew up working on a farm and after a stint in retail ended up at a golf course. He learnt a lot of his mechanical skills from his dad as a kid working on dirt bikes. He still has a passion for dirt bikes. He buys used bikes and fixes them up and sells them to make some side money. Listen in to find out how he made worm busters for his fairway units.
Transcript
Trent Manning: 0:00
Start recording here if you’re ready to get rolling. So your last name is KRS
Aaron Kirsch: 0:06
Ksh
Trent Manning: 0:06
Kirsch. All right. And it’s Saginaw Country
Aaron Kirsch: 0:09
Saginaw Country Club, Correct.
Trent Manning: 0:11
right. welcome to the reel turf techs podcast for the technician that wants to get reel follow along. As we talk to industry professionals and address hot topics that we all face along the way we’ll learn tips and tricks. I’m your host, Trent. Manning let’s have some this episode are real turf techs on golf course industries Superintendent radio network is presented by Foley county a strong supporter of equipment technicians and golf course maintenance departments everywhere Foley county offers a proven solution for above and below the turf for turf professionals To learn more about Foley company’s line of real grinders bed knife grinders and the air to G2 family of products or to find a distributor visit www dot Foley C o.com Foley Ready for play Welcome to the real turf techs podcast, episode 77. Today, we’re talking to Aaron Kirsch equivalent manager at Saginaw country club and Saginaw, Michigan. Sagen all country club is a private 18 hole golf course set on about a hundred acres. Aaron is the loan mechanic He has mostly Toro real mowers with a couple of John Deere and Jake’s mixed in. Let’s talk to Erin. Welcome Aaron to the Real Turf Text podcast. How you doing today?
Aaron Kirsch: 1:45
Good man. Good.
Trent Manning: 1:47
Yep. Glad you’re here. We’re gonna have a good time like. Tell us how you got into the turf industry.
Aaron Kirsch: 1:52
honestly, the guy that got me in was, he’s now my superintendent. was the assistant superintendent at the course, and, he knew I had some, he knew I had background in, in repair, fixing,
Trent Manning: 2:03
Mm.
Aaron Kirsch: 2:03
he came over to drop off some wood cuz they cut wood. We cut wood at the, at the club every winter. Came over to drop off some wood and he says, Hey, I haven’t heard from you in a while. How you doing? I went, Man, life sucks, I don’t, I’m not in the, I’m not in the greatest mood right now. I’m not the greatest spirits. He goes, What? What’s going on? I said, I hate my job. I hate it. I hate
Trent Manning: 2:25
What were you doing?
Aaron Kirsch: 2:26
Uh, I worked retail.
Trent Manning: 2:28
Okay.
Aaron Kirsch: 2:29
I sold guns. Sold
Trent Manning: 2:31
All right.
Aaron Kirsch: 2:31
in just a retail manager for Gander Mountain.
Trent Manning: 2:35
Okay. Yep.
Aaron Kirsch: 2:36
I don’t know if you’re from,
Trent Manning: 2:38
I’m, I’m from Georgia and I’m in Georgia, and I want to say, I don’t know if we have one in Georgia, but uh, there’s one in Chattanooga and one over in Huntsville, I
Aaron Kirsch: 2:47
don’t even know if there, Oh, yeah. Huntsville. I don’t know if there is anymore. I, I don’t know if where the company went after I left. I just cut ties and they’re, you know, it’s retail, retail’s a little, uh, I don’t know. It one of those things. You, you just go every day. You walk in, you go, This could be my last day kind of thing.
Trent Manning: 3:04
Oh, wow.
Aaron Kirsch: 3:05
No matter how good you do, they could just go, Well, you know, you’re not cutting the mustard, You’re out. So it was a very stressful job. So he came over, said, Hey, why don’t you come and interview with us, man, We just lost our, our equipment manager. And I said, What is that? What does, you know, what does he do?
Trent Manning: 3:20
Mm.
Aaron Kirsch: 3:21
he just fixes the equipment, keeps the equipment running. Oh, whoa, that’s pretty cool. I could do that. Yeah. And that’s, that’s how, that’s how it came to be.
Trent Manning: 3:30
Awesome.
Aaron Kirsch: 3:31
went and interviewed with them and after. I think it, maybe it was a week, and I just, I, you know what? I, I can’t, The stress is killing me. And, uh, no more
Trent Manning: 3:41
So what had you worked on previously? You said you were a fix.
Aaron Kirsch: 3:45
I started working on a farm when I was 10 years old, so I worked on man manure, spreaders, feed, wagons, tractors, not in. large capacity. I mean, the, my, my boss on the farm didn’t go, Hey, I need that diesel engine fixed. Go get it. He just, he had me there with him when he was doing work and I, I was kind of passionate about at least watching him do it.
Trent Manning: 4:06
Mm-hmm.
Aaron Kirsch: 4:07
on dirt bikes my whole life. My dad’s, do dis He, he didn’t even fix anything. I mean anything, anything. And it’s, uh, I, I watched him and I really. I did a little bit of my own stuff. I fixed dirt bikes cuz I ride dirt bikes. So I always rebuilding something, but it was never to a large capacity to a actual career or a job that I would do. And yeah, it’s pretty much,
Trent Manning: 4:33
Awesome. So how long have you worked at a golf course?
Aaron Kirsch: 4:37
it’s coming off on 10 years.
Trent Manning: 4:39
Awesome. Okay, well congratulations on that.
Aaron Kirsch: 4:42
you,
Trent Manning: 4:43
Yeah, yeah. was there a huge learning curve on learning cutting units and real setup and that
Aaron Kirsch: 4:48
I don’t know how I made it through my first year, man. I, I’m telling you right now, I think the only reason I made it through is cuz I have a really good work ethic. I’m punctual. I sent back, you know, you said how mu how many people work for you? It’s just me in the. I mean, nobody else. There’s guys that don’t know what a choke is. There’s guys that
Trent Manning: 5:06
Oh yeah. Yeah.
Aaron Kirsch: 5:06
they don’t know anything. And, and I feel like that’s, that’s my niche. I assumed that you could set up a cutting unit. It’s done until you gotta do it again. I had no idea that you had to do, you know, you had to adjust periodically, you know, and I adjust. I mean, every time they go out, you, you pull ’em back in, you adjust. And at least I do. know
Trent Manning: 5:26
Yeah. Yeah, Yeah. Yep. I think that’s standard practice. I don’t know that everybody does that, but. It’s becoming more
Aaron Kirsch: 5:34
that blew my mind when a lot of things in the golf industry blew my mind. But that was one of the big ones. I went, the, the guys said, you know, they, they brought someone in that had been, oh man, did he work at like Oakland Hills or something? I don’t know. They brought someone in and said, we’re gonna. Jobs shadow. This guy, he’s gonna come in and show you how to grind reels. Man, what a thing to get thrown into so much to know. I mean, it doesn’t look like it’s, it’s ooh, throwing sparks. You just grind this and then you set it up. It’s, you know, it’s a lot more, it’s deeper. You learn something about it. Every, every year I think I learn more about it and I go, Wow, I never knew that. God, I’m,
Trent Manning: 6:13
Right, right,
Aaron Kirsch: 6:13
should have known that. You know?
Trent Manning: 6:15
When I think it’s different too. A lot of us may have, over the years, learn a lot of the theory behind reels and bed knives and cutting units. But learning the theory and truly understanding the theory is kind of two different things too, and I think that’s why, one reason we keep learning, you know, no matter how long we’ve been doing it, we learn another little thing about it.
Aaron Kirsch: 6:42
I know every time there’s a, there’s a learning opportunity. when it comes to that kind of stuff, even if I know I’ve already, I’ve already heard that theory. I go and I like to pick people’s brains, especially people. I think we talked and did we, did we talk? Do you, You’ve got a, I’ve got a Bernard. A Bernard, and you’ve got
Trent Manning: 7:01
Foley.
Aaron Kirsch: 7:02
So I like to, man, I like to pick people’s brains. It’s kind of, it’s. To hear both of the sides of the story. It’s like politicians, I guess. You listen to one and they say, Oh, this guy’s a horrible piece of garbage. He really is that, Is it really? I mean, did you do that or did they twist it? That’s, that’s crazy right there. There’s, there’s some theory there, Bernard versus, uh, Foley. I, I don’t know. I just know what I do and I know it works for us.
Trent Manning: 7:31
Well, and that’s the thing, and it makes it really hard to argue either position, because with either grinder, you can have a good cutting unit. That cuts crafts the way it needs to. So it, you know, it’s, it’s hard to, to argue one’s better than another. And I think it basically boils down to personal preference because I really like to have a relief on my reel because I Ill that the real will stay sharper longer with that relief.
Aaron Kirsch: 8:08
That was another thing I, I looked at when I looked at your questions. I went, Man, do you relief, grind? No, I don’t, I don’t even know how,
Trent Manning: 8:16
Yeah.
Aaron Kirsch: 8:17
was taught how, I’ve, I’ve been asked that question before. I, I grind reels for a couple of, uh, a couple of clubs around the area.
Trent Manning: 8:25
Mm.
Aaron Kirsch: 8:25
and I, the one, superintendent said when I was doing his reels for him at his club with, with the same grinder that I have, he said, Are you gonna put relief in him? And. I don’t even know how, man, I, I don’t know how, I never learned, I, I don’t even think I, Bernard has a, they have a tool for that, but I, he goes, Oh yeah, we got it right there on the wall. You’re welcome to use it if you want. I think he wanted me to. I said, I don’t know how to do that. I, I don’t, It’s not necessary, according to Bernard, it, it’s, and I don’t know if that, I, dude who knows, You know it’s Chevy versus Ford, You. Ford versus Dodge. Somebody always telling you one thing and you go, Oh, okay. Until you’ve done it. I’d love to hear theory on it. I really would. More in depth. You know, I’ve, I’ve watched videos and stuff of why you do it and
Trent Manning: 9:16
Yeah. Well, I’ll give you, I’ll gave you a little, I’ll give you a little background that I know we have however many real manufacturers in the world. You got the big three. Obviously they all put relief, ground relief from the
Aaron Kirsch: 9:31
Yeah. Yeah,
Trent Manning: 9:32
So if there was not a benefit to ground relief, why would the big three spend the money to grind a relief on the blade and not just the big three? This is something I noticed the other day. Uh, one of our members, he lives right out the neighborhood. He has a true. So it’s a commercial homeowner version of a real mower, and he wanted me to grind it. So I throw it in the grinder and I get to noticing it’s got a ground relief from the factory on a $2,000 mower, you know, And you can’t buy a cutting unit for our mowers for $2,000 Now,
Aaron Kirsch: 10:14
Yeah. Yeah.
Trent Manning: 10:16
Yeah. Which that’s, that’s a whole nother podcast and subject, but they all do it. So if there wasn’t a reason to do it, why would they do it? That’s one question I have. So I am a firm believer in relief and it works well for my operation, but I know plenty of guys just like you in your situation, and I don’t know what level club you. Probably should know that, but even the super high end level of clubs run Bernard Grinders and they produce a good product. So there’s no way I could ever say you’re doing it wrong.
Aaron Kirsch: 10:56
No, I, I mean, if that’s the Bernard idea is if you just. if you, you grind a lot, you don’t need to put that in there. I don’t know, man. It, it’s, I, I wish, I wanna sit down. I’ve never sat down with both parties and, and I, one day I wanna sit down with a Foley guy and I wanna sit down with a Bernard guy and have a couple of beers and just talk, you know, get ’em going and
Trent Manning: 11:23
Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.
Aaron Kirsch: 11:25
cause.
Trent Manning: 11:25
May, Maybe we should do that at the golf show, at gis golf show and conference.
Aaron Kirsch: 11:32
that at?
Trent Manning: 11:33
Well, this year it’s gonna be in Orlando, February, Orlando.
Aaron Kirsch: 11:38
telling me about that. He goes, I’m gonna send you, I’m gonna force you to go.
Trent Manning: 11:41
Well, come on. We’ll have fun. I promise. It’s,
Aaron Kirsch: 11:45
I’m not, I’m not a traveler at all.
Trent Manning: 11:47
Yeah, it’s, It’s a good
Aaron Kirsch: 11:48
as I wanna go, really, or as far as away from home as I ever wanna be. Right where I’m sitting. Right.
Trent Manning: 11:54
Okay, I
Aaron Kirsch: 11:55
I’m about a hundred miles away from where I really, truly want to be.
Trent Manning: 11:59
Okay. Nothing wrong with that. Well, tell us what you fabricated lately.
Aaron Kirsch: 12:04
All right, So it wasn’t lately, but
Trent Manning: 12:06
And it doesn’t matter. It doesn’t matter when it
Aaron Kirsch: 12:08
I made for our, we have, uh, Toro 54 10 D fairway units. If you’re not, if you’re not familiar with Touro,
Trent Manning: 12:16
Yep. Yep. I’m familiar.
Aaron Kirsch: 12:19
I, I like ’em. I think they’re awesome. we have worms real bad. We have, uh, or brown grubs is my boss likes to call ’em. I made some, what I call worm busters, so I, I took some angle and made these. I don’t know, just frames that had a, a pretty stiff bristled, uh, shot broom. We went out and bought 10 shot brooms, cut ’em apart, put bolts through ’em to hold ’em onto the, to the angle. And the angle sits on the ground. You, you lay ’em flat and you adjust them with the, you know, I just welded a, I dunno, it’s like a three eights nut and used three eight s hardware. So that you could adjust them away from the reel. You’d have to, you’d have to look at ’em to, and you’d see that, I wouldn’t say genius behind them, but you’d see, you’d go, Oh, that’s cool. Yeah, it works. You know, you can adjust them. And they are, they go right in front of the reel and they’re brushing the ground. So they’re actually picking the grass up and they’re flicking, uh, with the bristles are, they’re quite stiff. They flick the, the, uh, worm mounds because we have worms. So, When it gets wet outside, they, it, it’s crazy. They come up and we put down, uh, t methyl put on a lot t methyl for them to kill ’em or, Well, no, to drive ’em away. I don’t know what it does. It kills ’em or drives ’em away, but keeps ’em away from a little for a little while. But if you get a, a time in the summer where it rains real hard, you can’t, they just pop back up and, you know, dirt destroys your cut.
Trent Manning: 13:50
Mm-hmm.
Aaron Kirsch: 13:51
we’re trying to make the cut last as long as we can so we don’t have to keep grinding and grinding and grinding. So we’re busters.
Trent Manning: 13:58
Okay. That’s awesome. Very cool idea.
Aaron Kirsch: 14:01
Right now I’m working on a, a linear actuator for, for our stump grinder. We have a, an old stump grinder unit and it used to have this hand tensioning system. It’s got this big four cog. That runs this huge wheel that spins and it grinds the, the stump down. And, you know, you tighten it with your hand. It’s got a little lever on it that you push and then you tighten it with the little Allen key. It’s crap. It’s garbage. And every year I’ve been like, Man, you know, every time I use, cause I gotta use it, I use it. And I’m like, This sucks. This is stupid, man. Why we even, so, last year I put an a linear actuator on, on the lever instead. Hand tightening it, which would always get loose and let the belt slip, and then you’d ruin belts. Put a linear actuator on there, and as long as I’m running it, it’s okay. But if you over tighten the linear actuator, then you end up burning your belt up anyway and wrecking stuff. But, so I’m working on that too. That’s another fabrication thing. But honestly, every day, every day I’m fabricating something. I’m making something. That’s what I like about the job. I don’t know. It’s, it’s a variety of stuff. You, you always get thrown a curve ball and you go, Hmm, how do I, how do I do this? How am I gonna fix this if I have to fix it right now? I love that situation and my boss hates it, but I love it cuz I just go, Hmm, how can I make myself look like a really smart guy right now? Oh, I’ll take this bolt and I’ll take this and I’ll take this and I’ll slam ’em together. And the old Voss goes, Wow. Cool man. That’s
Trent Manning: 15:34
Right, Right.
Aaron Kirsch: 15:35
never thought of that. So that’s cool.
Trent Manning: 15:37
Why don’t, So I used to, If you listen to any of the older or Yeah. The older episodes of the podcast, I used to ask the question, What do you like best about the job? And I believe every single person said the variety. I took the question out because everybody had the same answer and it is the variety. And that was the other reason I have the fabrication question because for me, I love fabrication and I think a lot of us love fabrication cuz you’ve set one reel up, you’ve set a bunch of reels up, like you said, problem solving, bring me a problem and let me try to solve it and fabricate something to make whatever.
Aaron Kirsch: 16:17
That’s cool.
Trent Manning: 16:18
And yeah, there, yeah, there’s nothing like it. And I’m fortunate enough, I got a young kid working in the shop. He’s still in high school, and he really, he hadn’t figured out what he wants to be, and I’m not holding that against him. I’m 44. I ain’t figured out what I want to be yet either. So the other day we had a chain link drag, So just a piece of chain link fence and a piece of fence post that it’s attached to. And I don’t know. It was not attached very well. So we just made some brackets to attach the chain link fence to the post so we can pull it behind a gator and drag in seed after we’re prepping to put down a FES seed. So anyway, simple little project, and this kid had the best time. He’s like, Can we fabricate something else? I’m real. I would like this fabricating stuff. This is really
Aaron Kirsch: 17:10
you. You just opened up a whole world for that, that kid. Say, Hey, what do you wanna do? Do you like welding? Oh, yeah. Who doesn’t like to weld? Doesn’t like to put two pieces of metal that ain’t supposed to be together and burn those things together.
Trent Manning: 17:24
Exactly
Aaron Kirsch: 17:24
it’s, it’s fun. It,
Trent Manning: 17:26
That’s a lot of fun. What’s your favorite tool?
Aaron Kirsch: 17:29
This is another one, man. I have so many, I have so many tools. I feel fortunate I’ll do it. Two part question. I feel fortunate, to already have a lot of cool stuff. we’re not huge facility, there’s, in the area there’s way bigger and way better facilities, but we have a PAC lift and, and that’s pretty baller. I mean, the lift is awesome. I use it every day. Every, every day. so I, I use it for all sorts of crap, man. I use it to break beads on tires. just lower, I lower the, the bend pack into the tire and it pops the bead off well sometimes, cause I don’t have a tire changer, but yeah, that kind of stuff. Yeah, that was cool. when I first started there, I was like, Oh, that’s pretty cool. You gotta lift man. You can. That’s so awesome. And then I started going to other places doing. Workshops and, and education and man, like some of these guys don’t have that. They don’t have anything. They’re just working on their back on the ground. Like that sucks. That’s not fun at all. I feel pretty fortunate that I have the lift. The lift is awesome. I use my Impact Drive battery powered Ryobi, nothing special impact driver. And I’ve gone through. Probably because he’s right hobi. But I’ve gone through like three of these things and I use them every day. There’s not much that it won’t bust loose. There’s not much at all. I barely use my air impact anything anymore, so that’s also a great one. But, I think my favorite tools, my favorite tool, tool, hand tool is my precision instruments, split beam torque wrenches. I bottom myself. they stay in the, in the toolbox in my pickup. So they’re always there if I need ’em at work, they’re, I mean, I drove to work. They’re there. I don’t leave ’em at work cause I use ’em at home too. But man, they’re, they’re just awesome. I hate
Trent Manning: 19:16
Okay.
Aaron Kirsch: 19:17
torque. Wrenches always confuse me. You know, they got this stupid dial. And you go, All right, am I at 45 and a half or 40? I, I mean, does it matter? You have to be that specific. But some stuff you do those torque wrenches. You just flip open the little knob, you set it where you want it, close it, you’re done. It’s awesome.
Trent Manning: 19:37
Okay. Yeah, yeah. Yeah.
Aaron Kirsch: 19:39
and they make ’em, they, the precision instruments, it’s the same as a snap. My buddies got Snap on versions that were like $500 cuz they were branded with Snap on and a different color. And I bought the Precision instrument ones and they were, they’re the exact same thing, different color, same manufacturer. those are awesome, man. If you don’t have a set, it’s, it’s, I think it’s only about $500 for the whole set. You can get a quarter, three eights and half.
Trent Manning: 20:08
Mm-hmm.
Aaron Kirsch: 20:09
I’ve got quarter three, eights and half, and I, I kind of want to get the three quarter, but I’ll never use it. I don’t know, you know, you get into those tool, you get a tool collection, you’re like, Oh my God, I had it. Even if it’s useless to me, I got, I, it’s not completely useless. I’m sure I’ll use it, but maybe $300 worth or $400, whatever it is, maybe I won’t use it enough.
Trent Manning: 20:27
When I worked for Jerry Pay, we had a three quarter inch drive torque wrench. That was, I don’t, That thing had to be four foot long at least, maybe five foot long. I mean, it was huge. And the only
Aaron Kirsch: 20:39
600 foot pounds and they’re big.
Trent Manning: 20:41
the only thing we used it for was to torque the wheel hubs on the 55 10. That’s the only thing I can. Torqueing, the, and I don’t even remember what the Torque spec
Aaron Kirsch: 20:52
That’s
Trent Manning: 20:53
it was Yeah, three, 400.
Aaron Kirsch: 20:55
over, if you over wrench it, it’s a lot easier to do. Cause you try to do that with a half inch or something. And
Trent Manning: 21:01
Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah,
Aaron Kirsch: 21:03
I don’t like putting pipes on stuff I don’t like, if I can’t do it with my muscles in the tool, then you need a bigger tool apparently.
Trent Manning: 21:10
Mm-hmm. Yeah. Yeah. No, that’s true. I’ve broke some ratchets
Aaron Kirsch: 21:13
Oh yeah. I all
Trent Manning: 21:15
Yeah.
Aaron Kirsch: 21:16
the, time.
Trent Manning: 21:16
guilty. I. What do you do to relax or find your balance?
Aaron Kirsch: 21:20
I got my garage set up right now. I got a TV out there, big flat screen. there’s a fridge out there full of cool beverages.
Trent Manning: 21:29
Mm-hmm.
Aaron Kirsch: 21:29
at this moment, at this very moment, there’s, there’s seven dirt bikes out there.
Trent Manning: 21:34
Okay.
Aaron Kirsch: 21:35
that’s what I do with my spare time. It’s not a, a business per se, but it gives me a lot of extra income. in the last few years I buy ’em this time of year. You, you can buy bikes real cheap cuz people are goofy. it’s summertime, so I want a dirt bike. They buy a dirt bike, they ride the crap out of it all summer, and then uhoh, it’s winter. Gotta get rid of that bike. So I can go out and buy a snowmobile or a quad or whatever, and I take advantage of it. I go out and buy ’em, say with a, you know, blown piston or wrecked valves or something. And if I get ’em a good enough deal, if I get a good enough deal on ’em, I turn around and sell ’em in the spring. And if I don’t want to, I keep ’em. And at the moment, I think there’s only two or there’s three of them in the garage that are staying, You know, it’s
Trent Manning: 22:21
Okay. Yeah.
Aaron Kirsch: 22:22
It’s something I always used to do is fix stuff, and now it’s, it’s kind of, it makes me money now. So that’s what I do to kind of supplement the little income that I get. Now. Not saying that it’s little, not saying that it’s a lot either it’s a, it’s equipment manager. I’m not at Oakland Hills or anything crazy, nothing big. So, it gets me money. It’s fun. That’s what I do. I come home and from working, I don’t know, it gives me control, At work, I can’t control who wrecks what,
Trent Manning: 22:49
Yeah. Yeah, yeah.
Aaron Kirsch: 22:50
but at home I know exactly what I have to do. That that bike needs a new piston and, and it needs new valves. So I can come home and I sit in the garage. I turn on, I don’t know, YouTube, I watch with diesel and angry video game nerd whatever. Something in the background just to keep my, keep my attention. And I just watch, listen, and work on my own stuff.
Trent Manning: 23:13
Oh, nothing wrong with that. That’s awesome. I remember David Bowers when I interviewed him, and he was talking about superintendents and what you were saying made me think of it that you got a dirt bike and it needs a piston. Easy enough, Superintendent. Sees a problem with the turf and he says, I think it may be this. I’m gonna spray this on it. Then I’m gonna wait two weeks and see how it reacts. So it’s gotta be tough for those guys not really knowing what the problem is.
Aaron Kirsch: 23:42
I couldn’t do it. I’m in that situation right now. I’m, I’m in that situation. My, my boss needed a, uh, our superintendent left for another, bigger and better. He took over for. The superintendent, but he never had anyone to take over for him. So he needs a, he needs a him, he needs someone to do him, and he doesn’t have anyone. and he said, Hey, do you think you could do double duty? yeah.
Trent Manning: 24:06
Yeah, that makes it tough. Makes it real tough.
Aaron Kirsch: 24:09
I wouldn’t say it was the smartest idea in the world, but we’re getting by. Hopefully we’re gonna find somebody. But yeah, I don’t know those guys. You gotta live for turf man. Otherwise, I don’t know why the hell you’d ever do it. I, I, I don’t really get into it that much. I like the, the fixing aspect. I like to fix the stuff that’s broke. That’s, that’s what I do and that’s what I do. Good. I’m definitely not an assistant superintendent. I never could be an a, a superintendent. That’s for danger. But
Trent Manning: 24:36
Right,
Aaron Kirsch: 24:36
I’m glad that he is cuz I couldn’t be,
Trent Manning: 24:39
What’s the strangest thing you’ve seen at work?
Aaron Kirsch: 24:41
We had a, a rotary outing, Rotary club outing, and, we get a call on the radio from one of the maintenance up at the, up at our clubhouse. Said there’s, there’s someone out driving on the course with a car. And we were like, Oh, it’s probably. who knows what it is? Who knows. So we, we head over there, my boss and I head over there, and we get to the end of, you know, where our practiced he would be. And we see this car coming down. Number one, someone from the rotary outing was leading them So we drove up there and, and talked to that guy, what’s, what’s going on? And he says, This lady, She’s lost her marbles and she don’t know where she’s at. He’s, she was up, she was driving on number three. On number three. Fairway. What? So we drove back and further down and, and talked to her and she was definitely not right. I don’t know. She had Alzheimer’s or something, or she. She won. Right. She wouldn’t let, I mean, she was afraid. That’s, I was kind of afraid too, cuz we kept driving in front of her car and I told my boss, I said, Man, I think she’s confused man. I don’t know if you wanna get between her and the exit cuz we stop her and cuz we were concerned, you know, she’s not, she’s not hurting anything. She was only driving about half a mile an. She wasn’t hurting anything. We just wanted her to know how the hell you got onto the golf course with your car? Where did you come from and is there anything we can do? Can we help you? Cause it wasn’t a drunk driver type situation. It was a, Maybe this lady’s having a stroke situation. Maybe she’s having a mental episode. I have no idea. She would not let us stop her. We drove, We got her to the parking. And from the parking lot, we tried to ask her a couple of questions and she just, not, not quick, just, just drove away. We couldn’t stop her. So we got her license and, or her plate number and stuff and sent it in and there was no damage done. But she drove up and over number three green and if she would’ve been another, I don’t know, she drove. Did a complete 180 on the green with her Impala.
Trent Manning: 26:52
Wow.
Aaron Kirsch: 26:52
know, the, the newer, newer body style Impala did a 180 and then came back down the green and she was only about two feet from going in this real deep bunker. She’d have flipped her car over and then she drove right back down the fairway.
Trent Manning: 27:05
Crazy.
Aaron Kirsch: 27:06
weirdest things I’ve ever seen, really,
Trent Manning: 27:08
Yeah, yeah,
Aaron Kirsch: 27:08
it’s to someone to come on a golf course, golf course in. Not in mil, not be malicious. I guess. She wasn’t malicious at all. She just didn’t know where the hell she was. It was, it was crazy. It was pretty wild.
Trent Manning: 27:20
That’s a good one. What’s one of your pet peeves around the shop?
Aaron Kirsch: 27:24
I’m such a complainer. This, this brings up so many things. I think one of my biggest pet peeves is, is just equipment. I’m OCD man. I, I like things a certain way. I like things parked a certain way. I think I’m probably pretty hard to work with cuz I,
Trent Manning: 27:40
That’s good self-awareness. got going on there, .I’m pretty hard to work with too. Ask anybody that’s worked with me.
Aaron Kirsch: 27:48
But, equipment negligence, abuse. I mean, just. It’s not yours and it cost a lot of money to put it into, into dollar marks. Put it into, you know, we’ve got a Pro Gator, a brand new pro Gator that was, I think it was like $36,000 or something ridiculous. And the guys drive like it’s a go-kart. Some guys drive it like it’s a go-kart. You yell at ’em, you tell ’em not to do it. Give ’em a month, they’ll do it again. Or they’ll do it behind your back. Abuse of equipment, I guess, and cleanliness. That equipment, you know, they don’t have to work on it. So when they, they bring something in, you say, Yeah, bring it in. Once you’re done cleaning it and you get it in and Jesus covered in crap, you know how it is. And you,
Trent Manning: 28:30
Oh yeah. Yeah. Yep.
Aaron Kirsch: 28:32
if you had to clean this and then you look like the jerk because you’re complaining. I complain constantly, man. I’m the biggest wine at work that there ever was. And I think it got worse this year cuz I don’t know, it’s just been a rough year. So, yeah, I think just equipment neglect and abuse, and I’m kind of OCD about how clean stuff is, you know, clean it up, you know, it’s not yours. Treat it like it was yours,
Trent Manning: 28:57
I’ve noticed over the years is if you look at the employee’s vehicle and it’s spotless and they keep it detailed, and then you see the way they, you know, wash the course’s equipment, this kinda makes you say, Hmm, why? You know, what gives here.
Aaron Kirsch: 29:15
See, I, I don’t know. I, I feel it’s a little bit. I feel the guys that that do care, that do clean the, you know, they’ve got a newer vehicle and it’s, and it’s nice looking, those guys usually are the ones that clean it real good. And if you complain and say, Hey, you know, you missed that center head because you know it’s a center head, it’s hard to get to, especially on like a TriFlex. They’re super short or super, super low and they go, Oh, I’ll, I’ll do better next time. But some of these guys, I don’t even wanna say, Hey, treat it like it’s your own. I. Don’t wanna say that because they might treat like it’s their own and they might wreck it worse than they are.
Trent Manning: 29:50
Right, right. Yep. That’s true.
Aaron Kirsch: 29:52
it’s part of the,
Trent Manning: 29:53
That works both ways.
Aaron Kirsch: 29:54
you know, you’re, you’re constantly, there’s gonna be somewhere like that every year,
Trent Manning: 29:57
Yep. do you have a mentor in the industry?
Aaron Kirsch: 30:00
I have a guy that I wouldn’t say he is my mentor, and geez, if he, if he heard this and he’d go, What? But, he’s a service manager for Spartan distributors. Spartan Distributors is the people who we buy all of our Toro parts from. I don’t know if it’s a worldwide thing, if it’s a statewide thing, but they’re, in Sparta. We buy our Toro stuff from them. We get our parts from them. And every time I have an issue with a Toro product, which is very, very seldom, I call this guy up. His name’s Tom Burke and he’s the service manager there. And he is man, he’s awesome man. he knows what’s going on. He understands you’re frustrated how he keeps his cool cuz I’m, I’m sure he talks to people that were, that. A little more irritated than I get. I try not to, I try to understand people from both sides and yeah, I’m mad because I got a piece of equipment that’s doing something goofy, but he didn’t build it.
Trent Manning: 30:55
Right, Right.
Aaron Kirsch: 30:55
is fix it and he knows, he knows his stuff. And I, I guess if there was anyone in the industry, that he’s probably fairly unknown cuz that’s what he does at Spartan. But man, he knows his stuff and he’s super. he knows you’re having a hard time with stuff. He’s just super patient with you. He knows, he knows the idea of what you’re, what you’re going through, and he tries his best and he follows up all the time. He’s good stuff, man. So,
Trent Manning: 31:22
that’s good. Awesome. Tom Burke, way to go. Tom, what would be your dream job or opportunity?
Aaron Kirsch: 31:29
anything that would get me back to the thumb of I moved down here to go to college, did college, went through it, started doing something different, then started doing something different. I would love to get back to where I’m from, closer to my parents. just in the country. It’s, it’s all farmland up there. I don’t see it ever happening at this point. I mean, I’m, I’m pretty established here. I got a house, things work, you know, and, and plot. I don’t think anyone back. Unless I work in a manufacturing, plant or something, I won’t make near as much money unless I did. And I don’t really want to be stuck to a job that’s just every day you, you look at parts and quality control or whatever it is. So that would be great if I could get back up there doing something in the diesel industry. I’m really curious about the diesel industry. Uh, I probably should be curious about the electric industry because it looks like that’s where everything’s going, but, I don’t think you can replace a diesel tractor with an electric tractor. I, I don’t, just don’t see it happening in the next well, until I’m dead. I don’t see it
Trent Manning: 32:33
Yeah, no, I don’t. I think that technology’s a ways
Aaron Kirsch: 32:36
it’s, Yeah. You know, we.
Trent Manning: 32:38
that happens.
Aaron Kirsch: 32:39
need to get ET and ask him how he does it, how he makes quantum leaps and stuff. I don’t think it’s
Trent Manning: 32:45
Right.
Aaron Kirsch: 32:45
anytime soon.
Trent Manning: 32:46
What technician would you like to work with for a day?
Aaron Kirsch: 32:49
I got a buddy from back home. This, honestly, the guy who would, if anyone was gonna employ me, although he wouldn’t be able to really pay me much, but my best. from high school. He’s got his, he just started his own business, in agricultural repair. Does Diesel does Dude, this guy, he knows diesels. his dad was a mechanic. His dad had a business from, I don’t know, time He turned. 35, I think he had a business fixing diesel tractors and
Trent Manning: 33:16
Mm-hmm.
Aaron Kirsch: 33:17
If a brain could grow with the amount of knowledge you had in it, this dude would be sitting on like a swimming pool for a brain. And he just, he’s got so much in his head. Every time I have an issue with a diesel machine, which there’s a lot of diesels, man, I, I call this guy up and I, I give him an idea of what’s going on and he goes, I’m not sure. He’s only 90 miles away, but every time I, I say that, he goes, When are you gonna be around the shop? I’ll stop by and he’ll come over and he’ll go, Oh, you’re doing great man. But I would do this. I would do this. And gives me tips and tricks. And man, he’s, he’s good. He’s really smart, dude’s. He’s smart. And I, I would love to work with not just a day, I’d probably like to work with ’em for about a year and just soak up every bit. Diesel information. Not, not only diesel, just he’s just smart in general. Just a guy who can take something and make something out of it, you know?
Trent Manning: 34:11
Yeah. Yeah. No, that’s awesome. That’s a good, good person to be. Good person to call a friend too. What do you know now you wish you’d known on day one?
Aaron Kirsch: 34:20
I’m still not very good at electrical stuff, electrical diagnosis and things like that. But on day one, I was, I had nothing. I hate electronics. over the 10 years that I’ve, almost 10 years that I’ve been working in the, in the industry, that’s a huge thing, man. There’s, there’s so many electrical systems in these machines. I still, I’m thinking if 10 years ago, if I started out with the knowledge I had right now, I might be going somewhere. You know what I mean? I might have that. I might have. almost all the answers I’m getting there Every year I feel like I get smarter and smarter with electronic stuff to the point where I used to just absolutely hate it. And now I, I grab my multi-meter and I roll over there and I’m, I look at electrical, schematic and I sort of understand it. It’s, it’s like calculus to me, but it’s still, I, I, I’m getting it. I’m starting to get it, but gimme 10 years and I might be caught up with the next best guy, but if I could start off with any amount of knowledge, it would’ve been a little more electrical. I wish I had a little more electrical experience.
Trent Manning: 35:23
I think that’s pretty standard for our industry. electrical and hydraulic. I think a lot of people. Shy away from, mainly because they don’t know that much about it and it intimidates them. Same thing with sprayers, and luckily for me, when I was working for Jerry Pay the Toro distributor, that was all the problems I got. Every problem I got was electrical hydraulic or a sprayer, so I didn’t have any, I didn’t have any choice but to work on those things, but that’s what everybody needed help. I was very fortunate that I was forced into learning those things.
Aaron Kirsch: 36:03
Sometimes that’s the best way. When you have no other. Figure it out, or we’ll find someone else to figure it out. That’s when you go, All right, I got this, I got this. When it’s your job, it’s different. You know, I wouldn’t, I don’t think I’d ever start a hobby of electronic repair. Gosh. But now it’s,
Trent Manning: 36:22
you never know.
Aaron Kirsch: 36:23
You know, the boss says, Well, we could, we could send it in and get someone to look at it. And you think about how much it’s gonna cost, you go, Man, give me a second with it. You know, I’ll call up Tom or I’ll call up, uh, you know, we’ve got some Jacobs and stuff. We’ve got some, uh, John Deere stuff. I call up the, the service manager and just pick their brain. I did today, I did today. And it’s the product that we have. And I, I always have issues with the thing and, I call them up. Gave me a couple of pointers and I went, You know what? Maybe I can’t fix it, but I can at least curb it. I can stop it from having issues that we’re having with it. Thanks a lot. hang up the phone and, and do it.
Trent Manning: 37:00
Awesome. Good stuff. What kind of tips and tricks you wanna share with us?
Aaron Kirsch: 37:10
the first one is, uh, when I, when I first. I did this, uh, my dad’s a two-stroke guy, man, two-stroke to the core. And we always used to, we would get bikes or mopeds or whatever it was, a two-stroke, and it wouldn’t run very well. I think the first thing that he would, that he would do was pop the exhaust off, fill it with gasoline and start it on fire and burn it out. Burn, burn the crud out of it, because two strokes run a certain way. If they need the gas pressure to go, that’s why the pipes are goofy looking on ’em because the gas has to go from one end and then return to the other end to give the cylinder reverse pressure to make the things run the way they’re supposed to run. So, burning out your two stroke exhaust, a lot of weed whackers and and blowers are too stroke and they have little spark rester bits on the end of ’em, and those things get clogged up instantly. They’re garbage. But you have to have ’em on. There are certain courses I’m sure have to have ’em on. I’ll either take ’em off or, or leave ’em on there and just, and torch em, you know, torch end of them so that the, that two stroke oil is burned outta there. All the carbon deposits are burned out and a lot of times that, that will completely fix your two stroke issues. that and I started using in. Have you ever heard of techno turf?
Trent Manning: 38:29
I have.
Aaron Kirsch: 38:30
Techno turf? Maybe it’s just a thing for around here. it’s like a lubricant. It’s a, it’s an organic natural lubricant that doesn’t hurt turf. And I use that stuff on everything. It’s not like an oil, an oily, sprayed on and it’s gonna stay there for very long. But, I know if you’re putting up. A real, a head unit that’s got, that you just did and you’re putting it away for a while and it’s gonna sit in a shed, or if it’s gonna sit out in the cold over winter or whatever it is. Mm-hmm. uh, I spray this techno turf stuff on, that fresh, that fresh metal, that exposed metal, and I don’t go crazy with it because it does leave a greasy streak. If you put way too much on, if you take the thing out there and you start it up on the green, there’s gonna be a greasy streak there, but I use it over winter and do this stuff is awesome. You spray it on, it doesn’t till the turf. It doesn’t hurt the turf in any way.
Trent Manning: 39:22
Huh?
Aaron Kirsch: 39:23
I don’t know how expensive it is either. I don’t know why we even started using it. It all of a sudden showed up in a shot. One of the sa, one of the spray or uh, one of the chemical reps was like, Hey, you gotta use this stuff. It’s great. It sat there for probably six months and I went, What is this crap? And I started using it and heck, I use it now for, uh, I spray my reels down with it all the time if they’re gonna sit there or even if just before I’m done with them because I run contact. I don’t know if you run contact or not, but I don’t run heavy contact. I always get guys go, Oh man, this thing sounds awful. It sounds, cuz they’re, not used to the way that the machine sounds when they turn it on. So you just ground it and you put everything together and then it makes this noise I don’t run that much contact, but every once in a while I’ll get a guy that goes, Hey, it sounds wrong. It doesn’t sound good. And you go, Now I have to go from where I’m working. Doing what I’m doing to go over there and go, It’s fine. Just run it. I’ve checked it, it’s fine. So I’ll put that techno turf on there. I’ll, spin the reel, spray it, spin the reel, spray it, you know, I’ll coat all the fins the whole reel. Not ridiculous. And I don’t have guys saying that anymore. So that’s, I like that stuff. It works good. I use a crap out of it now. And I like the fact it doesn’t kill the turf or nothing. You can’t just spray WD 40. And, and expect it not to kill the turf, but this got some kind of natural lubricant, so works good.
Trent Manning: 40:45
No, that’s cool. Good tip. You wanna talk about dirt bikes now?
Aaron Kirsch: 40:49
I don’t know, man.
Trent Manning: 40:49
G get, get you started up on dirt bikes. We might not, We’ll go into a whole nother episode here.
Aaron Kirsch: 40:55
I’ve picked up three. Honda CRF four 50 s. The motocross bikes this year so far. Extra ones in garage.
Trent Manning: 41:02
are those two stroke.
Aaron Kirsch: 41:03
are fours, four stroke and
Trent Manning: 41:06
Are most all the motorcycles nowadays? Four. Stroke.
Aaron Kirsch: 41:09
yeah, they’re, it’s emissions. Emissions big, so there’s a lot of, the Yamaha still makes a stroke. I think they only make it two 50. I could be wrong. And a lot of lo uh, smaller, bikes that, you know, your, kid bikes will be like 50 cc two stroke or an 85 85 C2 stroke. you can’t beat ’em for just ease of, I mean, it’s a two-stroke. Oh, I blew out my two stroke. Well rip the head off, ripped the jug off, put a new piston in it, put it back together, and you’re. Four strokes and you got, Yamaha uses titanium valves. A lot of the companies use titanium valves. They’re awesome. But man, are they expensive? You’re talking five, $600 foot valves in your, in your, machine.
Trent Manning: 41:49
Wow.
Aaron Kirsch: 41:50
So yeah, I’m, I’m pretty excited about ’em. I not really excited about ’em cause I’m not gonna keep ’em. they’re gonna, they’re just, I’m gonna flip ’em. I might keep one. I might keep one, but I don’t know why. I have no idea why I don’t need it.
Trent Manning: 42:01
Do.
Aaron Kirsch: 42:01
love.
Trent Manning: 42:02
Do you even ride anymore?
Aaron Kirsch: 42:03
yeah. Oh yeah. I ride, but I ride air cooled four strokes, like old Honda xrs.
Trent Manning: 42:09
Mm-hmm.
Aaron Kirsch: 42:10
em from 96 to oh four and I’ve got two of them right now that I run most of the summer. When I do have time, which isn’t much, I maybe have eight hours on two, two bikes this whole summer cause it’s been rough. but there’s something, I don’t know, something about coming home. I mean, I got a wife, I got a couple dogs chilling over here, but coming home, opening that garage door, backing in and just sometimes I’ll just crack a beer in the garage and I’ll just, just sit and look at these bikes. Cause I, I make ’em look real pretty before I get rid of ’em, all the issues with them that I, that I get when I, when I get’em fix the motors, put bushings and bearings and seals and, and then I just, then I can just sit there. I don’t know, just something else
Trent Manning: 42:52
Well, yeah. Stare at
Aaron Kirsch: 42:53
likes in the
Trent Manning: 42:54
for a little while.
Aaron Kirsch: 42:55
That’s my thing.
Trent Manning: 42:56
wrong with that. And I think, I mean, that makes me think of a good point that I know I’ve struggled with personally, and I think a lot of people in the industry struggle with it is moving on too quickly from one. Repair to another. if you, make, make something up. Say you rebuild a three cylinder diesel and you’ve worked on it for however many hours, you know, it’s a pretty involved job when you start that thing up, just take a deep breath and let it run, and just listen to it and bask in your glory for a little. Because you know, I’m usually started up and I get that really excited feeling like, Oh yeah, everything worked okay. I’m jumping to the next problem,
Aaron Kirsch: 43:42
Jump into the, Oh, geez. I hope it stays together. Pro
Trent Manning: 43:45
well, yeah, that’s, yeah, that’s the next thing that, yeah, that’s the next thing that goes through my mind, and I’m sure a lot of people can relate
Aaron Kirsch: 43:52
small victories, man.
Trent Manning: 43:54
Yeah, that’s right. Exactly right. Well, you wanna do some rapid fire questions
Aaron Kirsch: 44:03
Yeah.
Trent Manning: 44:04
What’s your favorite movie?
Aaron Kirsch: 44:05
I think my favorite movie’s fan, Tam.
Trent Manning: 44:08
Well, I cannot speak to that cuz I’ve never seen that one before. Tell, tell me a little bit about that.
Aaron Kirsch: 44:14
It’s a horror movie. I’m a big horror movie guy. so this month and this month and, well, actually September, I got so many horror movies. I got thousands of ’em. So this month and September, my wife and I just, that’s all we do. I get home from work. It’s which Jason are we gonna watch? Which Freddy we gonna watch How many Critters movies are gonna watch?
Trent Manning: 44:33
Okay. Yeah.
Aaron Kirsch: 44:34
Whatever. Uh, Fake Chasm is a movie from the late seventies, I think it was like 78 or 79. It’s just this guy who I don’t know, he’s tall. He’s a tall guy. They call him the tall man. He’s got this sphere that flies into your face and it
Trent Manning: 44:50
Okay,
Aaron Kirsch: 44:51
The drills a hole in your brain. It takes your brains. It’s goofy. But when I was a kid, my sister was a lot older than me. So when I was a kid, she, she did not give a crap. She let me swear, do whatever I wanted. Crazy. Anytime I saw a movie at the, at the video store of vhs, would say, I need to get you a VHS to keep you satisfied. What do you want? And I, I would, at really young age, like we’re talking five, six, probably not five, it was 6, 7, 8. I’m watching Friday the 13th movies and, and stuff. My dad had no idea he was, he go, That looks pretty scary. He didn’t watch it. He was out in the garage working on motorcycles and cars and stuff. He didn’t, he didn’t spend any time in the house, so I got away with that kind of stuff. it just brings me back. It’s a good movie. Cool movie.
Trent Manning: 45:41
Awesome. What would be your last meal?
Aaron Kirsch: 45:43
Taco Bell.
Trent Manning: 45:45
Really? Okay.
Aaron Kirsch: 45:47
Taco Bell.
Trent Manning: 45:48
Taco Bell. So what do, what do you get at Taco Bell?
Aaron Kirsch: 45:51
pretty much whatever’s cheap. They always have a, that’s always cheap. It’s like five is
Trent Manning: 45:56
Why don’t, this is your last meal.
Aaron Kirsch: 45:58
I mean, I’m a really simple guy. I don’t eat steak. I don’t eat shrimp or lobstered. I don’t eat basically what normal people go, Wow, that’s like a delicacy. I, ugh, I don’t want that. Give me chicken over beef any day.
Trent Manning: 46:14
Okay.
Aaron Kirsch: 46:15
And Taco Bell over pretty much anything.
Trent Manning: 46:18
right.
Aaron Kirsch: 46:18
I need to, I need to, I honestly need to work out every day just to burn it off cuz we eat a lot of,
Trent Manning: 46:24
Yeah. Good stuff. What are you most proud?
Aaron Kirsch: 46:27
I think it’s probably my, my bikes man. I, I have a couple of older bikes that, that are still around and they’ll, well, they’ll be around for another 50 years as long as they’re with me and I’m pretty proud of those call my secret weapons. You know, the bikes that got everything done to.
Trent Manning: 46:44
Mm-hmm.
Aaron Kirsch: 46:45
taking something that wasn’t supposed to ever be and making it more, building it, building it bigger, changing suspension stuff. Yeah. I got a couple of bikes that are pretty, pretty bad,
Trent Manning: 46:57
That’s awesome. Very cool. Yeah. Awesome, man. Well tell the listeners how they can get ahold of you.
Aaron Kirsch: 47:02
yeah, I’m on Twitter.
Trent Manning: 47:03
We’ll make sure and, uh, tag you in the tweet when we, uh,
Aaron Kirsch: 47:07
I seen my Twitter. You, you, you follow me. That’s all I do is dirt bike stuff on there. I hardly ever post anything about golf. I will
Trent Manning: 47:15
you,
Aaron Kirsch: 47:16
it’s cool or
Trent Manning: 47:17
you need to do the brushes if you hadn’t to post those yet. Maybe you did,
Aaron Kirsch: 47:21
on there. I put a picture of ’em on there a while back. It said something about busting out the worm, the worm busters, or putting on the worm busters today, but it wasn’t an any idea how to make ’em or anything like that.
Trent Manning: 47:33
Yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Aaron Kirsch: 47:34
I know, um, we hired a guy from a golf course. He was a superintendent at another golf course in the area. He said, I kind of felt like a jerk, you know, I talked to our Toro rep. He came over to our facility to tour our facility. He saw those worm busters on our machines, and I, I built them. They weren’t just some slap together thing, You know, I, it took me a day and a half to build these things and they looked legit. They looked like something that you’d almost, you could buy from Toro. And he had asked the Toro rep at the time where he could get them, how much they were, and the Toro rep went, That dude made it them himself. They,
Trent Manning: 48:08
Yeah. Yeah. That’s
Aaron Kirsch: 48:09
I know there’s other, there’s other, people who have built them. I think I got the idea from Seth. Maybe,
Trent Manning: 48:16
Maybe, I don’t
Aaron Kirsch: 48:17
it was Seth. I, I might have, I can’t remember if it was him or not, but they made, theirs were legit. I mean, theirs looked like a manufacturer. Mine were, I guess if you look at ’em and you don’t, you haven’t seen ’em, you go, Wow, those look legit to me. They look kind of haggard because I don’t know how to, I’ve never been professionally trained how to weld or anything, but I, I, can I make it work?
Trent Manning: 48:37
Yeah.
Aaron Kirsch: 48:38
But the ones that he had, man, they looked sweet. I think it was Seth, maybe it wasn’t. I could be wrong.
Trent Manning: 48:43
That sounds like something Seth would
Aaron Kirsch: 48:45
we were at a thing at Michigan State and, and my boss went, Wow, krs, look at this. This guy made these warm things you think can make those. I went, Hell yeah, I can make them things, but they ain’t gonna look as nice. They’re, you know, his were painted and it looked, mine are just
Trent Manning: 48:59
Uh huh.
Aaron Kirsch: 49:00
whatever.
Trent Manning: 49:01
Whatever. Yeah. It gets the job done. That’s all. It matters. Yeah. Well, thank you so much, Aaron for being on being a guest today. It’s been fun as always, and we’ll talk to you soon.
Aaron Kirsch: 49:13
Thanks man.
Trent Manning: 49:13
Hope you enjoyed hearing from Aaron. What a great guy. He really loves the dirt box. I don’t think it’s really cool that he’s passionate about And it don’t matter what you’re passionate about. But you need to be passionate about Even if it is I think a lot of us can relate Do you like doing five projects? I know it’s one of my personal favorites. We’re all problem solvers. And I think that’s what makes fabrication so fun. It is we’re creating something to solve a problem. Hopefully you got some education lined up for this winter. I know I’m getting ready to go to the Carolina show. I hope to see you there. Hopefully there’s some other. Equipment manager seminars going on around the country. Oh, no, I just got back from a couple. So do your best to get out there and try to, uh, attend as many as you can meet more people. Grow your network. Until next time. See you. Bye. thank you so much for listening to the Reel turf techs podcast. I hope you learned something today. Don’t forget to subscribe. If you have any topics you’d like to discuss, or you’d like to be a guest, find us on Twitter at Reel turf techs.