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Join us for a Texas Roadshow recap! Howard Horne, Equipment Manager at Bear’s Best Atlanta joined our host for a Georgia to Texas journey stopping at The Alotian Club, Trinity Forest, and PGA Frisco. We met lots of good friends along the way and attended the first EM seminar in North Texas. Hear our thoughts on the brand new PGA Frisco facility, BBQ, and the cheap hotels our host tries to book for his friends. If you ever decided to travel with Trent, you’ve been warned!

Transcript

Trent Manning: 0:05
welcome to the reel turf techs podcast for the technician that wants to get reel follow along. As we talk to industry professionals and address hot topics that we all face along the way we’ll learn tips and tricks. I’m your host, Trent. Manning let’s have some Welcome to the Real Turf Text Podcast, Road Show edition with Howard Horn.

Howard Horne: 0:31
Audi outing?

Trent Manning: 0:32
Thanks for being here, Howard. Me, me and Howard just got back from an amazing trip, in my words, I think his opinion too,

Howard Horne: 0:41
Oh yeah. Oh, it was great. Enjoyed it very much so,

Trent Manning: 0:45
and we’re calling it Texas Roads Trip, but we went via Little Rock, Arkansas, which when I called my dad and told him we were in Little Rock, he said, I thought you were going to Texas. And I said, We are going to Texas.

Howard Horne: 1:00
just a little detour.

Trent Manning: 1:02
Yeah. It was, it was a, a quick detour, but well worth it.

Howard Horne: 1:06
Oh yeah, for sure. No. Yep.

Trent Manning: 1:08
So we, I took a bunch of pictures and. To jog our memory, we’re gonna go through this camera roll and the first picture I got was of the ma uh, window washer that I brought along, which was Howard

Howard Horne: 1:25
Yeah, that guy did a really good job. I was proud of him. The windshield was really nice. I mean, he was actually pretty good looking too,

Trent Manning: 1:33
no, extremely good looking guy. And clean the windshield. I

Howard Horne: 1:38
Filled the gas tank up with fuel. Did the window washing.

Trent Manning: 1:43
it was really a full service, uh, gas station every time we stopped with Howard on the trip.

Howard Horne: 1:50
Yep. If they had a window washing fluid. What? I was looking for it so that way we could see where we going.

Trent Manning: 1:55
That’s right. And hopefully I didn’t scare you at any point during the

Howard Horne: 1:59
Oh, you drove good.

Trent Manning: 2:00
All right. Thank you. Thank you for that.

Howard Horne: 2:04
Yeah, I was, I was really impressed with your driving. You was class A driver there. I was just glad to be the, uh, I was glad to be the rider. Glad you let me come along.

Trent Manning: 2:13
Oh no. Thank you so much. And you made a heck of a co-pilot too. Kept navigation going for us and, uh, the, the ways

Howard Horne: 2:22
woman on the ways up kinda got pissed off as a couple times cuz we kept taking detours and she kept saying, Turn around, turn around, turn around, make the right, make a right turn.

Trent Manning: 2:32
Uh, make a right, make a right. So anyway, we ended up, uh, going through Memphis and I’d never been to Memphis before, but really cool town and area. And we got a recommendation on barbecue from Will Watson. Uh, he’s at the lotion club and we went to a central barbecue in Memphis.

Howard Horne: 2:56
Yeah, it was, uh, it was pretty nice. I mean, Like, Yeah, I’d never been been to Memphis neither. So that was a, pretty cool experience too. and the barbecue place just happened to be across from the Martin Luther King, memorial place there at his motel and stuff there where they redone all that for the museum. so I was pretty neat seeing some of that stuff. I mean, I know you’re the barbecue specialist, so I mean, it was, it was okay in my words. I’ll just leave it at that. The barbecue.

Trent Manning: 3:29
Yeah, I would, I would agree. I think, uh, maybe we hit Central barbecue on a bad day. I’m hoping it was a bad day for. The meat was not fresh.

Howard Horne: 3:40
yeah, it was okay. It wasn’t the greatest for sure.

Trent Manning: 3:43
I think it’d been, uh, warmed up maybe one too many times.

Howard Horne: 3:46
but it was a neat experience to actually go, you know, cuz that is, you know, one of the popular barbecue places in Memphis. So, So,

Trent Manning: 3:54
Well, and it was really cool being right next to the Civil Rights Museum and where we sat. It was open to the outside

Howard Horne: 4:04
Yes.

Trent Manning: 4:04
you could see the Lorraine Motel

Howard Horne: 4:08
Yep,

Trent Manning: 4:08
Civil Right Museum and all that. That was really cool. Neat experience for sure. And then who told us about the big pyramid?

Howard Horne: 4:18
I think Will did, if I remember right, Will asked us, you know, if we’d ever been to the Pyramid. And we were kind of like, didn’t know what he was talking about, but it was the, the Bass Pro shop pyramid. I guess Bass Pro Shop got built in there some time ago. I don’t think they actually built the pyramid. I think it was already built and they’d bought it. but yeah, that was a heck of an experience too. The Bass Pro Shop was, that was pretty cool.

Trent Manning: 4:44
Yeah, that was uh, definitely worth the stop for sure. And yeah, when I heard pyramid I thought, Well, we’re not in Egypt. Well, what’s going on with pyramids?

Howard Horne: 4:53
glass. you know, it has Bass Pro shop on the outside of it. And, they did have a hotel in there, didn’t they?

Trent Manning: 5:00
I’m

Howard Horne: 5:00
that a hotel? I

Trent Manning: 5:01
Well, yeah, cuz yeah, they had a bunch of rooms and stuff. Yeah, that’s right. Yeah. I don’t, I mean, I was really blown away with the bass brush out. I’ve been in quite a few Bass Pro shops, you know, across the southeast anyway, and it was really incredible.

Howard Horne: 5:19
Yeah, this one was like being in a, when you walk in, it’s kind like you’re walking into a swamp area. They had like all water going everywhere. Fish in all the areas, sturgeon, bass, brim. They had all kinds of fish swimming around. Had big, like fake, cypress trees that were huge, you know, as tall as the pyramid probably. And that’s the pyramid. I think they said, what was it, 320 feet tall?

Trent Manning: 5:47
Yeah, something like that. Yeah, it was.

Howard Horne: 5:51
So inside of the Bass Pro shop, they had, you know, just, just huge cypress trees and all, you know, in there. Big pools of water everywhere with fish in it and a big aquarium with all kinds of fish in it. And of course Trent, you know, he’s wanting the bass fish in the aquarium, so

Trent Manning: 6:09
Sure, Sure. I was looking, I was looking for a, a rod and reel in

Howard Horne: 6:13
Yeah, big, nice 10 pound, bass inside there.

Trent Manning: 6:16
Well, I couldn’t believe, I think the most impressive thing was the six foot long sturgeon swimming around. I mean, those things were huge.

Howard Horne: 6:25
Yeah, they’re big. Yeah, yeah. Yeah. They’re, they’re big. and I don’t know if, if you’ve ever seen one up close, they look like a kind of prehistoric dinosaur fish cuz they’re all like bony. You can see their bones. And, growing up where I grew up at, we used to see ’em all the time in the river. They’d jump up and, I mean, if you ain’t careful, they can knock you out the boat.

Trent Manning: 6:47
I’m sure I wouldn’t want to get hit by one of those.

Howard Horne: 6:50
Cuz they come up in the river and that’s where they lay their eggs at and stuff

Trent Manning: 6:55
Okay.

Howard Horne: 6:55
yeah, they lay all their eggs and stuff and breed up in the, up in the Wanee River down there in Florida. But yeah, they, they get massive.

Trent Manning: 7:03
Well, yeah, that’s the first time I’d seen one up close like that. I mean, other than seeing ’em on TV or something. So I was really,

Howard Horne: 7:11
Yeah. Yeah. That was a pretty cool place. Pretty cool place to stop. I’m glad we got to see it too.

Trent Manning: 7:16
No, it was definitely, uh, definitely worth the stop. I’m so glad we did

Howard Horne: 7:20
what? Crossing the Mississippi there, right?

Trent Manning: 7:23
Oh yeah, yeah. That Mississippi something else.

Howard Horne: 7:27
Yeah, that’s actually, that, that’s probably the first time I can remember actually crossing the Mississippi.

Trent Manning: 7:34
Hmm.

Howard Horne: 7:34
so yeah, that was pretty cool. It’s huge. I didn’t realize, you know, it’s, Really wide. and then to actually see the areas where they have the, have some of the dams built for flooding was kind of crazy too, actually. How up they, they were out of the banks and thinking that that much, you know, that river can flood that much,

Trent Manning: 7:55
Oh yeah, like when we went across and first getting into Arkansas where all

Howard Horne: 7:59
yeah, yeah. Where all them berms were billed at for flood. Yeah. I mean, that was like a quarter of a mile away from the freaking river, you

Trent Manning: 8:07
And yeah, probably a hundred feet or something

Howard Horne: 8:10
Oh yeah.

Trent Manning: 8:11
above, you know, river level at the, at that time.

Howard Horne: 8:15
That’s just insane to think that that river can flood that bad. The water get the water level get up that high, was just crazy to me.

Trent Manning: 8:23
Yeah. No, that’s, it was, it was nuts. So we, uh, left Memphis and made our way through, uh, the eastern part. Yeah. Through the flatlands. I thought I was in Western Kansas, but we were in eastern Arkansas.

Howard Horne: 8:40
Yeah. That was, that was a, a surprise because I did not expect Arkansas to be that much flat and that much farmland,

Trent Manning: 8:49
Yeah. It was farmland for days and days and days between sorghum and. Cotton. That’s all we seen for miles and miles and miles.

Howard Horne: 8:58
yep. And they were harvesting it too. So we seen a lot of combines operating, a lot of farmers doing their thing. and actually, I think I looked it up, it was like six, what was it? 6 million? 6 million and something acres in Arkansas is farmland,

Trent Manning: 9:13
Yeah. Yeah, yeah. Yep. That’s what you’d looked up. Yeah. No, that was, that was crazy.

Howard Horne: 9:18
Yeah.

Trent Manning: 9:18
Yeah, I didn’t know, uh, there was that much agriculture in Arkansas.

Howard Horne: 9:24
Yeah, it was insanely flat,

Trent Manning: 9:26
So Tuesday morning we got to lotion club with Will Watson, and that was one of the coolest places I’ve ever been. And I can say that honestly, after seeing Pine Valley and nothing to take anything away from Pine Valley. Pine Valley is really.

Howard Horne: 9:45
Yes.

Trent Manning: 9:46
A lotion is very special too.

Howard Horne: 9:48
Yeah, it is. And I’m, yeah, I’m really glad we got to, to go by and see that. I mean, with Will, he used to work, he used to work with me at golf club at Georgia when I was there. I hired him straight out Lake City and just to see him achieve what he’s achieved in his career, and where he’s at, just to have any little. To even think that I had any kind of inclination to do anything with that is just unbelievable to me. I, I, that’s one thing I really, I think I appreciate that more in my career than anything else, is just helping guys out like him achieve what he’s achieved,

Trent Manning: 10:22
Oh yeah. No, it’s gotta be a great feeling for.

Howard Horne: 10:25
know? And yeah, that club was just, I mean, I can say this definitely, that’s probably the prettiest piece of property I’ve ever set foot on. that piece of property is just amazing.

Trent Manning: 10:37
Yeah. And it’s basically set on top of a mountain, just outside of Little Rock.

Howard Horne: 10:42
Yeah. It was crazy because all of Little Rock or all of the Arkansas leading up to that area was completely flat. until we got like into Little Rock there, it didn’t get any hilly at all. Oh, now we do have to talk about, I’m traveling with Trent, so he’s making, he made a reservation for the hotel.

Trent Manning: 11:01
I was trying to skip this

Howard Horne: 11:02
Yeah, I know. Uhhuh So, so I take his, I got his reservations for the hotel. They’re just outside a little rock, and so I’m like, all right, cool. So here’s us pulling up into the hotel. So we pull up and I don’t know if my butt C clench is tight or the hair sticks up on my back.

Trent Manning: 11:21
Probably both.

Howard Horne: 11:22
It could have been both.

Trent Manning: 11:24
Yeah, it was, uh, it was definitely a, a little shady. And so right before we get to the entrance to turn into this place, and I don’t remember if it was like a quality inn cuz I’m a tight, wide, but the backside of the hotel was grown up in weeds and I was like, This don’t look really good. And we turn in there and it’s like a Texas ghost down almost setting of this place. And we were not as close to Little Rock as I thought we were because. Evidently I can’t judge distance on a map. Very good. And it looked like we were only maybe an inch away, but we were probably 45 minutes away from Little Rock. So we made the choice to get a little bit closer. And I’m glad we did.

Howard Horne: 12:15
Yeah. It didn’t, it didn’t take long to, uh, change venues.

Trent Manning: 12:18
No, no, it did not.

Howard Horne: 12:22
Uh,

Trent Manning: 12:22
So a couple things I wanted to highlight, and I don’t know if you’re welcome to highlight whatever you want to, but one of the first pictures I took as soon as I walked into Will’s shop was he’s got the golf lift table, the heavy duty golf lift table that I’ve seen at a lot of other shops at the hydraulic driven one, not the pneumatic one. And a problem I’ve had, I have this same table and a problem I had on my epoxy floors is it just rips the epox. It doesn’t matter how good you prep under it, any of that stuff, the casters on it, just rip it up. And Will had made a metal frame, probably eighth inch metal. I mean, it wasn’t super

Howard Horne: 13:06
Yeah, it wasn’t really thick, but

Trent Manning: 13:08
that set underneath it, to support the weight of those rollers. So I’ll definitely build, be building one of these before I re

Howard Horne: 13:17
cuz it was like a little track. if I remember right too, it kind of like had ridges on the side too, where it wouldn’t kind of like a little track it rode in.

Trent Manning: 13:26
Yeah. So it wouldn’t walk Yeah.

Howard Horne: 13:28
yeah, so it wouldn’t walk off of, walk off the edge or anything. yeah, it was pretty, it was pretty neat. definitely something to add to keep your floors, you know, your paint. Coming up on your floor all the time or anything. so that was pretty neat.

Trent Manning: 13:41
As we’re going through this and we’re talking about these pictures, I’m not gonna share these publicly, with anyone, but if you wanna send me an email and ask for a specific picture, I would be happy to share that. The main reason I want to share all of ’em is I know lotion club’s pretty protective over all their course pictures, and I don’t really know the policy of the other club, so I just feel it’s best to keep ’em here. And then if you want one, reach out to me and I will, uh, share one with you.

Howard Horne: 14:16
Yeah, cuz they definitely, we definitely couldn’t share the ones at the golf course for sure.

Trent Manning: 14:20
No, no, no. Will said the shop might be okay, but I don’t, I don’t

Howard Horne: 14:25
of, yeah.

Trent Manning: 14:26
Yeah, I don’t want to, uh, burn any bridges for sure. Another area that I really liked of. Wheels was all, Well, his whole place is amazing. But one thing that intrigued me was he had basically a bed knife changing table set up, and he stored all his bed knives, just a stronghold, bench with drawers underneath it. And he stored all his bed knives there, bed nice crews. He had a bunch of extra rollers under there, some extra reels. And the vice that you need, the tools you need or hanging up on pegboard, torque wrench, I mean, everything you need to change a bed knife are right there.

Howard Horne: 15:10
Yeah, it was a really nice setup. and like I say, that stronghold, all the stronghold stuff is really good. You know, it’s gonna last forever and it ain’t gonna, it ain’t gonna move around on you while you’re working on it neither cuz it’s heavy enough and thick enough still. And yeah, really nice, really nice ball bearing drawers and stuff in their, in their cabinets and all too. so that was, yeah, that was really nice. Nice area there. His whole grinding area was really nice. You know, it’s like one, so his grinding area was basically like a separate bay off from his actual work bay where his lifts and stuff were. So it was like a whole nother separate bay area with its own bay door leading to the outside. So it was pretty neat because you could pull something in there or outside the door or whatever and work on it, Take the reels off, roll stuff in. You’re not taking up any room in your actual workshop.

Trent Manning: 16:05
Mm-hmm.

Howard Horne: 16:06
Because the grinding you had like an actual just grinding Bay area, which I thought was pretty nice.

Trent Manning: 16:12
bit. No, it was a really good setup. And then, so he had two bays where they both had lifts for checking equipment or, or whatever. And then parallel with that is the grinding bay with all his grinders a door. And then kinda on the side of the building, kinda on, on the back corner, there was another bay that was a really long bay and he said when he designed that bay, he was thinking about splitting a tractor. So it’s plenty long enough to split a tractor on or in, and any other thing you might have tore down for, you know, a longer period of time. And then that way you’re not blocking. Getting your equipment in and doing your daily setups and all that kind

Howard Horne: 17:03
Yeah, you can have something down there, you know, staying for a while and it’s not gonna be in your way of doing the rest of your stuff in your shop. grinders wise, he had an express, he had an express dual angle master. He had the Foley, the new fo what was it, six 70?

Trent Manning: 17:21
of stuff. Yeah. I don’t know if it was the newer one. I, I kind of think it was a 6 72 bed

Howard Horne: 17:27
Yeah, it might have been. And then a Foley bed knife grinder also.

Trent Manning: 17:31
yeah, probably a six 30 real grinder and a six 70 bed knife grinder. And then what the express do, 5,500 and

Howard Horne: 17:42
Yep.

Trent Manning: 17:44
the both of those were new, right? Because they’re part of the

Howard Horne: 17:47
yeah. he just got them, I guess. cuz his other, his other ones was in one of their, one of their storage areas for to be sent back. and then he had that Foley, what was it, the Foley, uh, Rotary Blade. Grinder,

Trent Manning: 18:02
yeah, it’s like a four 50 or something. The only time I’d ever seen one is when I got to go to the Foley factory when I was working for Jerry Pay and they’re really cool.

Howard Horne: 18:14
Yeah. He said that thing was really quick. He said, I guess it does both sides of the blade at one time. Yeah. So

Trent Manning: 18:21
And then once you get it set up, so like if you were doing whatever, 4,500 blades, once it’s set up for those, you pretty much just chunk ’em in there and hit go.

Howard Horne: 18:30
yeah. Lock and load. Yep. Yeah, that’s, yeah, that was pretty sweet. and he definitely used it, so I. it wasn’t like it was something difficult to use and he just had it in there. It was, He was definitely had, It definitely was being used.

Trent Manning: 18:45
Yeah, and I’ve seen that with other brands where, um, they just, they’re over in the corner collecting dust and nobody’s using them

Howard Horne: 18:54
Yep,

Trent Manning: 18:54
cuz there’s easy to use, easier to use a four and a half inch angle grinder, sharpen rotary blades. And I would definitely be looking into one of those if I had a lot of rotary units.

Howard Horne: 19:07
Oh yeah, for sure. Yeah.

Trent Manning: 19:09
I was really impressed with the whole compound and how big it was. I wish I would’ve got a square, square footage.

Howard Horne: 19:18
It had to be, I’m thinking it had to be like five acres.

Trent Manning: 19:22
that was my guess off the top of the.

Howard Horne: 19:24
I’m, It had to be at least five acres.

Trent Manning: 19:27
Five acre compound with what? They had four buildings maybe on it, Something like that.

Howard Horne: 19:35
I think it had al, I think it had five, five buildings on it and they were looking at building another one for overflow storage stuff.

Trent Manning: 19:46
Right. And if you don’t know, lotion is an 18 hole golf course. I mean, it was just insane to

Howard Horne: 19:54
Yeah. So it’s 18 hole, you know, Zosia Fairways, oia roof, Z OTs, everything’s Zoia. yeah, it’s, it’s a big piece of property. A lot of, I can’t remember the green, the green square footage. What was it like six ac? Was it six acres of greens?

Trent Manning: 20:12
think so. Yeah. Yeah. Something like that. Six acres of greens. And then I was getting confused. Do you remember how many acres of fair. 40, 60.

Howard Horne: 20:23
It was, Yeah, I think it was like, I can’t remember, if it was 60 or not. I know it was a lot because, so he has a lot of, he, he has enough equipment to do 36 holes easily. that he maintains, you

Trent Manning: 20:36
Well, yeah. Didn’t they have seven or eight fairway mowers?

Howard Horne: 20:39
seven fairway mowers. and he said it took him eight hours to mow fairways, didn’t he?

Trent Manning: 20:45
I think so.

Howard Horne: 20:46
because they took lunch break when we were there. Mowing fairways.

Trent Manning: 20:49
Yeah. Yeah, yeah, Yeah.

Howard Horne: 20:51
Yeah. They came in for lunch. Um, so yeah, we’ll get into more of that. But as far as the, the compound goes, I mean, one thing that blew me away too is it’s all concrete. you got six inches or eight inches of concrete for about five acres. Cuz Justin, the

Trent Manning: 21:09
many million that was.

Howard Horne: 21:11
the superintendent there was saying that it was over a million dollars worth of.

Trent Manning: 21:15
Oh yeah, for sure. Yeah. Crazy, crazy.

Howard Horne: 21:19
Uh,

Trent Manning: 21:20
And then, uh, super nice chemical room area. They had one bay for fertilizer, one bay for chemicals, and then another bay that was perpendicular to those two bays for all their loading, uh, big mix tank to mix their chemicals in.

Howard Horne: 21:42
yep. All overhead fills inside their chemical room. I think they could put like two, two rigs in there at one time and fill ’em, if I remember right.

Trent Manning: 21:51
Yeah. Yep. Yeah, cuz they’re, yeah. Two hoses there. And,

Howard Horne: 21:55
yep. Yep.

Trent Manning: 21:56
then all the, all that was contained and could be pumped back into a sprayer to be sprayed out.

Howard Horne: 22:03
Yep. Really nice. Fillin station. yeah, all their buildings and for. As far as the equipment storage and stuff went too. like you could walk out of wheel, basically walk into equipment storage area where wheel shop was. So Wheel Shop is set off, it’s its own separate building. the equipment storage area and his shop is all connected and then all the other buildings are separate, so it’s not connected to like the break room building and offices and all that. He’s got his basically his own building, which is nice cause then you don’t have guys walking through your work area and stuff like that.

Trent Manning: 22:38
Oh yeah, for sure. And the what? Irrigation They had like their own bay in his building too,

Howard Horne: 22:45
Yep. Irrigation had their own, their own little Bay area. I mean, of course they do have, you know, every place needs four, you know, irrigation technicians for 18 holes. So

Trent Manning: 22:56
I was kind of surprised that he needed, or they had four irrigation technicians because we can’t even keep one. And our system is going on 35 years old.

Howard Horne: 23:07
Yeah.

Trent Manning: 23:08
Yeah. And I think they were built in 2004 lotion wise,

Howard Horne: 23:12
Yep. Yep.

Trent Manning: 23:14
not that old of a club, uh, relatively speaking. And then they had a, another huge building that was supposed to be implement storage and it had some implements in it. Uh, they, they housed their rollers out there and then looked like a bunch of fertilizer and stuff too.

Howard Horne: 23:32
Yeah. Big da, uh, Dakota. Material Handlers. Handlers. yeah, just, yeah, just kind of like overflow storage of stuff. yeah. It was just crazy.

Trent Manning: 23:41
Yeah, it really was. And then moving on to, they called it the Sims Mahal after, uh, the superintendent.

Howard Horne: 23:50
Yep. Justin Sims. Yep.

Trent Manning: 23:52
Yeah, it was, uh, it was incredible.

Howard Horne: 23:56
Yeah, this building here has really blew me away. just, I mean, not only just the way it looks and everything, but the thought of everything that went into it, the way it was all organized and the way the flow, you know, and the whole operation went and stuff is really, was really thought out. And I know they did a lot of that. You know, a lot of people put their thought into building that building and it really turned out nice for ’em.

Trent Manning: 24:21
if I remember right, Justin said for five years they’d been writing down, Id. This, not just him, but anybody that had kinda came through there, worked there, you know? So it was a collaborative effort between a lot of people to come up with these ideas. And so as soon as we walk in, the first picture I take is they have two filling stations for water bottles that are recessed into the wall. I thought, how cool is this? But just the overall architecture, the look, the feel inside the break room, I mean, just makes you feel like you’re at a special place.

Howard Horne: 25:00
Yeah, I mean, it was, you know, like the floor was all done and the, you know, thick epoxy poured up, you know, up on the wall a little bit so you could, you know, you could basically wash down the whole entire, hallway and, you know, it all went to like a certain little tiny drain

Trent Manning: 25:16
Mm-hmm.

Howard Horne: 25:17
yeah. And then inside the restrooms, like the restroom and areas for the crew and stuff was just, that was unbelievable too.

Trent Manning: 25:26
Oh yeah, their whole locker room. And then they got four stainless steel, huge sinks for washing up if you come in dirty

Howard Horne: 25:37
Yep.

Trent Manning: 25:37
with, Yeah, with automatic towel dispensers over each one. two different types of soap if you’re really dirty or not really dirty. I mean, just.

Howard Horne: 25:46
Yeah. And then they had normal, you know, then they just had the normal sinks also, you know, so you had all them big sinks like that. Then you had the normal sinks on the other side, uh, with, you know, with your just normal urinals and stalls and everything. You know, of course you had your shower in there and all that good stuff. And I mean, it was just, and every, every, of course everything was just immaculate, it don’t even, it didn’t even look like they worked in that building.

Trent Manning: 26:11
Oh yeah. No, the floor is spotless. Yeah,

Howard Horne: 26:14
yeah. It,

Trent Manning: 26:15
I think he said they did have a cleaning crew that come in every night or something,

Howard Horne: 26:19
yeah, yeah. He,

Trent Manning: 26:20
that definitely helps.

Howard Horne: 26:22
yeah, for sure.

Trent Manning: 26:23
And then the break room, I was blown away with the, The break room?

Howard Horne: 26:27
I mean, the break room was like, it was like the inside of a cracker.

Trent Manning: 26:31
Yeah.

Howard Horne: 26:31
it kind of reminded me, you know, cuz it had the open wood ceilings and stuff, and a lot of wood features and everything. And it just looked like really just amazing break room. know, three TVs in there, one tv, you know, just showing your normal TV stuff. And then the other ones, the other two I think were like job boards that they used for job boards.

Trent Manning: 26:52
Mm-hmm.

Howard Horne: 26:53
and then of course you got, what was it, eight microwaves or something?

Trent Manning: 26:57
Yeah, I think it was seven. Seven microwaves just in case. And I don’t, what, do you remember what the crew size was? 30 ish or was it more

Howard Horne: 27:06
It was like 40 something in the summertime.

Trent Manning: 27:11
Yeah, mean, I I thought, you know, they could have used a couple more microwaves with 40 guys, but it

Howard Horne: 27:19
yeah. And then you. Like as far as like the thought of the building and all, like right off the break room area, you had this door that you could walk out to that just went into like a really nice outside patio area. covered ceiling fans all out there, nice wooden benches, you know, just a really nice area for the guys to sit out in when the weather’s nice and they can eat outside. And so I thought that was pretty cool too.

Trent Manning: 27:43
Oh yeah, no, that, that was awesome. You know, I know in Georgia we would get to use that maybe 10 days a year with their heat and humidity and all that stuff, but I, I could definitely see myself sitting out there and eating lunch and, I mean, it’s a beautiful piece of property too. The whole thing is, so

Howard Horne: 28:01
Yeah.

Trent Manning: 28:02
it, that was awesome. then we made our way into, uh, the room where they stored all their as builts and they got metal cabinets. Huge drawers for all their plans and as-builts and

Howard Horne: 28:17
all lay flat in the drawers and stuff.

Trent Manning: 28:20
And then they had a plotter, so if they needed to print off another asbuilt they could, cuz everybody needs a 24 inch plotter at their place. And then below this fabulous, uh, break room offices and all that stuff is a basement,

Howard Horne: 28:38
yeah.

Trent Manning: 28:40
which I thought was cool just to have a basement. But we go down there and they got a full gym down there where you can work out. They had a walk-in safe, like a 20 by 20, probably walk-in safe,

Howard Horne: 28:56
walk in. Eight inch, eight inch concrete thick walls. yeah, that was, that was pretty

Trent Manning: 29:02
with a regular, uh, safe.

Howard Horne: 29:05
Yeah.

Trent Manning: 29:06
Yeah. I mean, yeah, it was really

Howard Horne: 29:08
Yeah, it had a Wells Fargo safe door on it.

Trent Manning: 29:11
Mm-hmm.

Howard Horne: 29:12
Yeah.

Trent Manning: 29:12
then the build maintenance guy, he had a, a bay there in the basement and a work table and work benches and all his tools and stronghold cabinets.

Howard Horne: 29:23
Yeah. He had a nice work area there too.

Trent Manning: 29:25
yeah, I would, I mean, there’s a lot of technicians that would like to have a work area, just like the building maintenance guy.

Howard Horne: 29:31
Yeah, he, yeah, he had a really nice work area, especially all his cabinets were really cool too. The way they were set up with everything in there was pretty neat. Yeah. And had all his, you know, all his tools in there to do anything with really. It was a nice setup, of course, like he said, you know, like he was telling us, you know, that we were telling him how nice everything was. And he said that he had never worked anywhere else. And we were like, Well, this is good. You don’t go, you don’t have to go nowhere else cause. This as good as you’re gonna get. So you might as well just stay here,

Trent Manning: 30:00
yeah. Yep. Yeah. He doesn’t know how good, uh, he’s got it. And it was kind of funny cuz Yeah. He was like, How is it out other places? Like, man, you got it made here,

Howard Horne: 30:11
Don’t even worry about it. Just stay right here,

Trent Manning: 30:14
Yeah. Yep. Don’t even think about going somewhere else. So to, what do you wanna talk about on the course? I mean, it.

Howard Horne: 30:21
Oh my gosh, man, I, I, mean, when we first started riding around and, you know, we go to the driving range area and stuff, and the driving range area is just massive. you know, of course they got separate tees set up every, different t complexes. and just, you know, all I can say is that piece of property is just amazing. it’s just un it’s just unbelievable. I mean, the piece of property, the views on that piece of property, we go through like five holes and will’s like, well, you know, wait till we get to our, to our signature signature hole. And I’m like, Well, shit, I just seen five signature holes. what else can I see? And it’s just, and it really does no justice, that pictures doesn’t, I mean, just being there in person is just, it’s just unbelievable. It really is. but yeah, it’s just all well meant. You, I mean, you can just think of you. Top 100 golf course, you know, top 20 golf course in the world. I mean, it’s all well maintained, you know, everything’s in perfect condition. you know, you got the views at the lake, cuz they’re by that lake. What was it, Mom, Mom, you or something? What lake?

Trent Manning: 31:26
Yeah, I can’t remember the name of it. Something like

Howard Horne: 31:29
Lake. Memaw.

Trent Manning: 31:30
Yeah, we were, that’s what we were calling it, Lake Meemaw, but I don’t, Yeah, maybe it was Marine or, I don’t remember

Howard Horne: 31:37
yeah, just the nice, you know, big lake there.

Trent Manning: 31:40
which kind of surrounds, I don’t, At least three quarters of the property you could see the lake from.

Howard Horne: 31:47
yeah. Cause what they said, they, altogether, they had like 3000 acres there,

Trent Manning: 31:52
Yeah, some something. Yeah. And just so we don’t forget, there’s a 1400 acre track and they pay a guy to to work on that track and I guess he’s part of the crew. They don’t seem very often, but he has a Polaris ranger. And how many hours did he put on it? A year.

Howard Horne: 32:15
it was crazy. It was like 800 to a thousand hours

Trent Manning: 32:18
A year. Just driving around this 1400 acre property. And well, Justin was telling us he went out there and rode around with a guy to evaluate some stuff he was working on and it was like a six hour thing to go out there and ride around cuz it’s so hard to get to some of these places and I don’t know what all he’s working on out.

Howard Horne: 32:41
Yeah. I mean the, it’s just, it, you know, like we said, I mean, it’s a really special place. and you know, of course there’s no homes around the golf course. There isn’t, any residential homes anywhere that you can see at all. so I mean, it’s. and then they did have, I can’t remember what hole the, what do you call ’em? I think it was cabins or cottages,

Trent Manning: 33:02
Oh yeah. Cottages. Yeah.

Howard Horne: 33:04
you know? Yeah. So they have like three cottages, they call ’em cottages, but they were like five bedroom mansions.

Trent Manning: 33:11
Yes.

Howard Horne: 33:13
you know, for the, the owner, the owner had one. Mr. Stevens is, he was the owner, so he had one, and then they had two other ones for the members, that they could come in and stay, if they wanted to.

Trent Manning: 33:24
coming up to the clubhouse, you had to valet, you pull your car up, they valet it and there’s what, 200 members or something

Howard Horne: 33:33
yeah, I think that was kind of a, kind of. I don’t think really Will said they really didn’t know the member number, but he thought it was somewhere around 200. I guess, cause it’s kinda like trying to be a member in the fight club

Trent Manning: 33:45
Well, yeah. And that was something else that came out. Like somebody said they were a member there and then they got in all kind of trouble for saying they were a member there. Remember there, and I don’t remember what hole this was, uh, but one of the holes. Really got to me, I guess as we’d walked out on the green and off to the left of the green. So, way outta play is this beautiful lake with fresh water running into it, and it’s outta play. Nobody’s ever gonna even go over there, but it’s just kinda tranquil looking spot.

Howard Horne: 34:19
That was the one you could see the clubhouse, the back, yeah. Yeah. So the clubhouse was like up on a hill back, way back there.

Trent Manning: 34:27
Mm-hmm. .Yeah. No, it was, it was impressive. A lot of water features on the whole property, which was pumped water to, create water features. And then all the stone work,

Howard Horne: 34:42
Oh

Trent Manning: 34:42
miles and miles of stonework rock.

Howard Horne: 34:46
Everything was stonework, like around the edges of the cart path. They had stone walls built up like two feet high, like, everywhere, like on going up on all the tee boxes with stonework, you know, the stairs, paths, all that stuff is stonework. I would love to know the number that they, the money that they spent just on the stonework. cuz it was unbelievable.

Trent Manning: 35:08
Oh yeah, Yeah. No, it was crazy.

Howard Horne: 35:10
I’d never seen that much stone, like at a golf course much, just stonework just all over the place. Just unreal. I mean, and that’s why I was telling Will, I mean, we, I, we kind of did ourself injustice cause we went there first

Trent Manning: 35:26
Yeah. Yeah.

Howard Horne: 35:26
know, I mean, you know, and not, I mean, all the other clubs we went to were amazing too. But it, it just, that club was just, that piece of property is just unbelievable. I mean it really was.

Trent Manning: 35:40
when I remember Will asking us, what’s your favorite hole? And not that I could remember the holes, but it’s like everyone was something different and incredible.

Howard Horne: 35:50
Yeah, because you’re just out there and it’s nothing but golf. you don’t hear anything. There’s no road noises around. There’s no like construction noises. you’re just out there playing.

Trent Manning: 36:03
Mm-hmm.

Howard Horne: 36:04
every hole is by themself. there’s not like a lot of parallel holes that you can, you’re not gonna hit across this hole into another hole.

Trent Manning: 36:13
Mm-hmm.

Howard Horne: 36:14
it’s just, here’s a golf hole, play it. yeah. really great. really good people too. Justin, the superintendent, awesome guy. I really liked him, enjoyed talking to him. everybody just seemed, you know, just really easy to get along with. just a really good operation and, you know, like I, you know, when I was talking to Will and stuff, you know, I mean, I can see why, he ain’t gonna go nowhere. I mean, why would he, I

Trent Manning: 36:36
Oh yeah. No, there’s

Howard Horne: 36:38
I don’t know of any other place you’d want to go, after being there.

Trent Manning: 36:42
no, Yeah. Where do you, where do you go from there? yeah, I have no idea.

Howard Horne: 36:47
not win the lottery, I guess, and just totally quit

Trent Manning: 36:51
Mm-hmm. Yep. Retire.

Howard Horne: 36:53
Yeah.

Trent Manning: 36:54
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Howard Horne: 37:50
Yeah.

Trent Manning: 37:51
which was another amazing property. A lot smaller scale after being a lotion, but in the grand scheme of things, pretty big operation

Howard Horne: 38:05
Oh yeah, yeah, yeah, So they have a, yeah. a, big facility. Tony, you know, was an awesome guy. That was the first time I ever met him.

Trent Manning: 38:12
Well, what, Didn’t he actually give you a follow on Twitter after you met him? In person or

Howard Horne: 38:18
Oh, I know. Yes. It only took him a year.

Trent Manning: 38:20
Okay. Yeah.

Howard Horne: 38:21
Yeah. Yeah. So I’d been following him and yeah. So, yeah, when he actually met me, he followed me back. So I guess he liked me.

Trent Manning: 38:29
Right. Well, that’s, that’s a good sign.

Howard Horne: 38:33
Uh, no, I, I

Trent Manning: 38:34
hard time about your, uh, photo

Howard Horne: 38:38
Cuz I didn’t have a picture of myself, so they really didn’t know, you

Trent Manning: 38:41
They, they thought you were a.

Howard Horne: 38:43
Yeah. But, No, I really enjoyed meeting him and talking with him, you know, really know knowledgeable guy, wanting to get the, the industry, you know, going in that area. And as far as like the meeting and stuff, cuz we, we just happened to be there when they were holding one of their kind of, I guess, first,

Trent Manning: 39:00
Yeah. He said it was the first technician seminar

Howard Horne: 39:05
Yeah. which was really cool, to meet a lot of the local guys from there. And so that was really nice.

Trent Manning: 39:12
No, it was awesome. What? Yeah, Tony’s doing there and working with the, I don’t remember if it’s North Texas, you know, their local chapter of G C S A A and kind of getting, getting the ball rolling.

Howard Horne: 39:25
what’d they say? What did the woman say they had? Was it five or six chapters for Texas?

Trent Manning: 39:32
Yeah, I don’t, I don’t remember. It was a lot, a lot of chapters. It was a

Howard Horne: 39:36
yeah, a lot of chapters big, big chapters and stuff. but did get to meet, you know, a lot of good, lot of good technicians. all really nice guys. and like you say, I mean his, his whole area was nice too. I mean, the, the, I really liked his shop. you know, cuz the size of his shop is, it’s, I mean, it’s a little bit bigger than mine. I mean, it’s probably, but I just, you know, it’s a decent shop, you know. Nice. It was really laid out really nice. you know, so I, I like to, you know, I liked his, you know, his shop area there and stuff. His work area and stuff was really, was really good.

Trent Manning: 40:13
Yeah, I think he done an excellent job working with the space. He had to get everything laid out. Some of his stuff’s on, uh, or a lot of his stuff was on castors, so he can roll it over in the corner when he ain’t using it, and then you just roll it out when you need to get busy.

Howard Horne: 40:29
Yeah, I did see that he had some of his, I think it was his, plasma cutter, he had on a stand too that he could roll around.

Trent Manning: 40:37
Yep. Yeah. The plasma cutter was, and then he had a little belt grinder on casters

Howard Horne: 40:43
Yep.

Trent Manning: 40:44
and then, uh, the really expensive, uh, pressure washer he had I couldn’t believe

Howard Horne: 40:50
Yeah.

Trent Manning: 40:51
for a cold water pressure washer.

Howard Horne: 40:54
yeah. We’re I, Yeah, we’ll just keep the price of that to ourselves so

Trent Manning: 40:58
yeah, yeah. Yep. It was, uh, I really assumed it was the hot water pressure washer

Howard Horne: 41:04
Well, it

Trent Manning: 41:05
what he paid for it. Yeah. It was named Hotsy. Yeah. Hots or something like that. Yeah. Hot with a z.

Howard Horne: 41:12
Uh,

Trent Manning: 41:13
Cool parts room, very organized, parts storage and lubrication oils and all that stuff. I really liked his, uh, Gator with the John Deere air compressor.

Howard Horne: 41:27
Yeah, that was pretty sweet. The, uh, the Shop Gator, the shop Pro Gator with the air compressor on it and a little toolbox and the winch on the back.

Trent Manning: 41:35
Yeah. And he said that winch has wied out so many people and I could only imagine, um, the other cool.

Howard Horne: 41:43
with that place being built, on a

Trent Manning: 41:46
Yeah. With sink holes all the time.

Howard Horne: 41:49
Sinkholes everywhere or whatever soft, so, you know, in spots. I could see that being definitely a plus having that WeCh.

Trent Manning: 41:57
And I really thought it was cool, the brick oven pizza that the guy pulls on a trailer and he rolled up and he cook us all pizza for lunch. That was, uh, A nice surprise for

Howard Horne: 42:08
Yeah, we need to see about getting him in Georgia.

Trent Manning: 42:11
Yeah, well we got his card and Mike Rollins was there and he’s gonna try to get him down in Florida

Howard Horne: 42:18
Yeah.

Trent Manning: 42:18
January and February.

Howard Horne: 42:20
Yeah, cuz I think, I know there was a lot of pizza eight, that was for sure.

Trent Manning: 42:25
I know I ate way too much pizza and especially way too much pizza right before we went and ate at heart. Eight Barbecue.

Howard Horne: 42:34
Yeah.

Trent Manning: 42:35
Wow.

Howard Horne: 42:37
Uh, yeah. So the golf course at, at Trinity, that was it was all Zoria too, wasn’t it? All Zoria rough

Trent Manning: 42:44
Yep. Yeah, he’s got, uh, yeah, Georgia Fairways, Oria Rough. Then they have a lot of native areas and then Champion Bermuda.

Howard Horne: 42:53
Yeah. And everything looked spot on. I mean, it was, you know, when we were there, you know, it was dry. but of course, you know, like t was saying, a lot of it was designed that way, cuz it’s a

Trent Manning: 43:03
core Crenshaw

Howard Horne: 43:05
Yeah. And

Trent Manning: 43:07
Wanted

Howard Horne: 43:07
that style of golf course to be played that way. but it was a really nice, big, huge greens. golly, what’d he say? How many acre, how many acres of greens was it? Like eight or nine?

Trent Manning: 43:20
I don’t remember, It was a lot really big green, and they had a ton of fairways too. That’s why all these numbers get mixed up

Howard Horne: 43:27
Yeah, cuz they had eight fairway units, right? Didn’t he? He had eight fairway units. which is crazy cuz this is still just 18 holes.

Trent Manning: 43:36
right? Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. That’s, you know, I thought that I was doing really good cuz I

Howard Horne: 43:42
I got two fairway units.

Trent Manning: 43:44
Well I have four, so I thought I was ahead of the curve, but I ain’t got nothing on these people. But honestly, I don’t want to have anything on either one of them with that much zoia.

Howard Horne: 43:54
Oh, no. Mm-hmm. No. Uh

Trent Manning: 43:58
Yeah, I could imagine having another 20 cutting units to keep sharp on.

Howard Horne: 44:03
Yeah.

Trent Manning: 44:04
The ones I got are enough.

Howard Horne: 44:05
I’ve been there, done that for Theoria? Nope, I’m

Trent Manning: 44:09
You got shirts too, right? You got a bunch of shirts

Howard Horne: 44:12
Oh yeah. Yep, yep.

Trent Manning: 44:14
Why not moving on to, uh, hard eight barbecue. This, I’ve never, Had you ever experienced this

Howard Horne: 44:21
I never, I ain’t even never heard of it. Tony was the one, I guess that mentioned it, you know, he called it the pit style barbecue. And it just happened to be by the hotel, not far from the hotel that we were staying in.

Trent Manning: 44:35
Yeah, it was just right

Howard Horne: 44:36
Cause we were, what was it, Plano, Texas is where we were staying. Just north of Dallas Plano. Yeah. so yeah, that

Trent Manning: 44:43
you, you, walk into this place and there’s, I don’t want probably like eight pits. So the pit is a big metal box, probably I don’t, five by eight or something is the pit. And there’s seven or eight of them

Howard Horne: 45:00
yeah.

Trent Manning: 45:01
where they’re smoking the meat and then they have a pit kinda at the end of the line. Of course, it’s really hot in there cuz they got all these pits going, but they got fans, whatever. And then there’s a pit that you come up to that’s got all the meat in it. That’s freshed off of another pit, so it’s keeping it warm and there’s a couple people there serving it up. What do you want? You want brisket, You want ribs, You want pull port? Just whatever you want. What did you get?

Howard Horne: 45:29
it, I actually got the baked potato with brisket, so they cut the baked potato open and put brisket inside of it. And I mean, I’m sorry to tell central barbecue this, but good god that this barbecue here blew them out of the water.

Trent Manning: 45:46
No, it was really, really good.

Howard Horne: 45:48
Um, that’s probably, that’s some really good brisket. really tender, juicy, not dry. so yeah, I had that and I had their, peach cobbler.

Trent Manning: 45:57
Oh, okay.

Howard Horne: 45:58
That was really good too. And they’re macaroni and cheese. Cause I had the peach cobbler and macaroni and cheese. Yeah.

Trent Manning: 46:05
So I’m a fat boy and, uh, I love barbecue. I got, I got the brisket sandwich and I just ate the brisket, tried not to eat the bread. I’m trying to cut back here. And I got a couple ribs and then they had jalapeno shrimp, bacon wrap poppers. So I had to get a, yeah, I had to get a couple of them. And one thing I really liked was the hot or warm barbecue sauce.

Howard Horne: 46:33
Oh yeah, yeah.

Trent Manning: 46:34
Yeah. That, that made it right there. That was really good.

Howard Horne: 46:37
Yeah. I’m a wimp for hot stuff, so I didn’t get any of the heart barbecue sauce. I just stuck with the, the normal house barbecue sauce, which was really good. They’re just, their normal house barbecue sauce was really good.

Trent Manning: 46:49
Well, I liked it because both of ’em were heated up, you know, warm, not, not a cold sauce that just come out of the refrigerator.

Howard Horne: 46:57
And this was a big place too.

Trent Manning: 46:59
Oh yeah, it was huge,

Howard Horne: 47:01
Yeah, massive place.

Trent Manning: 47:03
They, you know, the old saying everything’s big in Texas,

Howard Horne: 47:06
Oh, it was big.

Trent Manning: 47:07
it was definitely big.

Howard Horne: 47:09
Yeah.

Trent Manning: 47:10
So then, then our, our next stop, we had ate so much we needed to walk some of it off and Tony had told us about Shields, which I’d never heard of. And you hadn’t heard of it either, had you

Howard Horne: 47:23
Now I got an application in with ’em, so hopefully they’ll call me back. yeah, I’m gonna see if I can just work, maybe holidays, you know, that way it ain’t such a far drive, you know, I can just go, work holidays there or whatever, and get the employee discount because holy cow.

Trent Manning: 47:39
yeah. Before we left, Howard and I both wanted to get a job there and actually one, one of the guys we were talking to is that worked there. Uh, that’s how he got a job there. He just fell in love with the place. His wife says, Hey, I think they’re hiring. And he’s like, Okay, I’m putting in my application.

Howard Horne: 47:56
Yep. Yeah, that, that place was unbelievable. I mean, it’s, I’d never, I had ordered something from there, on the internet and stuff through their internet, their internet online store and stuff. But I’d never, I never even knew they had a physical store. so yeah, when we go there anyway, this place is like a, the only way I can explain it, it is like a cross between, it’s like if Bass Pro Shop, Cabella’s and Academy Sports, and Dick’s had a baby, and that baby ruled everything.

Trent Manning: 48:28
That’s a good way of putting it. Cause yeah, they had everything sports wise.

Howard Horne: 48:34
So we went in there, it was daylight and we came out and it was dark. We were in there two and a half hours

Trent Manning: 48:40
Yeah. We spent two and a half hours in this place.

Howard Horne: 48:43
and we still didn’t see it all. Cause we didn’t even see the archery thing. The guy was talking about the indoor archery range.

Trent Manning: 48:49
Yeah, no, we totally whiffed on

Howard Horne: 48:51
even know how we missed that

Trent Manning: 48:53
Well, and I mean, honestly, it was Howard’s fault. We spent two hours in the gun department. No, it was just as much my fault too. But

Howard Horne: 49:03
that was, yeah, that yeah. The store was a,

Trent Manning: 49:07
it, two story building with, uh, you know, don’t know how many square feet this thing is, but its massive. It’s got, its big enough. It had a Ferris wheel in the middle

Howard Horne: 49:18
Yep, Yep,

Trent Manning: 49:20
that you could ride on like a real legit

Howard Horne: 49:23
Yeah. It wasn’t, no baby Ferris will neither. It was a big, it was pretty good. Size one.

Trent Manning: 49:27
and that, but the amount of guns that they had, and most of ’em were out where you could pick ’em up, handle ’em, I mean, everything. It was.

Howard Horne: 49:36
Oh yeah. And then, and then as far as the employees, cuz we found out after we’d left, we found out that it was employee owned. Right?

Trent Manning: 49:44
Yeah. Yeah. Yep.

Howard Horne: 49:46
Yeah. Because when we were in there walking around, literally every two minutes somebody asked us, Hey, need any help? You looking for something? I mean, we started making jokes about it because it was like every minute. But it, it was actually a good thing. Cause it, I’d never been in a store like that. Most of the time you’re like trying to find somebody, Hey, can you come open this case for me? Okay, yeah. I’ll get somebody, Well, it’s 20 minutes later and you gotta go ask ’em again,

Trent Manning: 50:11
right? No. And yeah, Howard made a best friend that really wanted to sell him a knife,

Howard Horne: 50:18
Yep.

Trent Manning: 50:18
and he showed us every knife in the display case. I think he’s like, Ooh, look at this one. I bet you’ll like it.

Howard Horne: 50:24
Yeah. So we, yeah, we handled, I think every knife in there. Yeah. That was really impressive to me too, was the way the employees were just, anytime any of ’em walked by you, they asked you if you needed help.

Trent Manning: 50:35
Oh yeah. No, that was really cool.

Howard Horne: 50:37
yeah.

Trent Manning: 50:38
And then what was some of the guns that you’d never seen before that they had there?

Howard Horne: 50:42
the sequence, Precision rifles, you

Trent Manning: 50:45
this is a Texas based

Howard Horne: 50:46
Yep. Texas base custom rifles. yeah, I’d never even seen one in person. They had ’em in stock. Wilson Combat, he’s a big in Texas too, Custom 19 elevens is what he made his money on, made his name for. He had, they had one of his rifles in stock. JP Enterprises, which is another, custom rifle company. They had theirs and st I mean, I’ve just never seen that many custom rifles in stock at a. Because most of the time a lot of that stuff is special order

Trent Manning: 51:14
Mm-hmm.

Howard Horne: 51:16
you know, a lot of people don’t know, I, I’d shoot, me and my wife and us, we, shot a lot of competitive, three guns stuff. So that’s how I know, a lot about these, guns and everything. But yeah, it was just, it blew me away really. and the fact that, that you could, like all the bold actions and shotguns and stuff you could just walk up to and, you know, do the action back and forth. Check out the gun, you know, hold it, anything like that. And nobody’s standing there, over you, I mean, it was just really nice to be able to, to do some of that stuff like that.

Trent Manning: 51:47
and then they had, uh, Dylan reloading stuff.

Howard Horne: 51:51
yep. Dylan, uh, is a big company outta Arizona. They’re like running really nice manufacturers of reloading equipment. so if anybody ever gets into shooting stuff and reloading stuff, I mean, di is definitely a, a good machine. but yeah, I’d never, that’s the first time having even seen that, you know, store like that. Most time you gotta order that stuff from them.

Trent Manning: 52:12
Right. Yeah. I didn’t know it was retail stuff

Howard Horne: 52:15
so just amazing store. if I lived in the Dallas area, I, I would definitely have a job there. So

Trent Manning: 52:21
Oh yeah. I definitely have part-time job too. Yeah, no, it was amazing. So seriously, if you ever get a chance to go to Shields, and it’s spelled S C H E E L S,

Howard Horne: 52:36
yep.

Trent Manning: 52:36
Check ’em out cuz it was incredible, incredible place. And then walking out, they have a fish aquarium that you walk underneath and it’s got all kind of fish swimming in it. I mean it was biggest aquarium I’ve ever seen. It was, it was not. And they say that, so they have multiple locations and they say this is the biggest one. And of course they’re gonna say that cuz it’s in Texas.

Howard Horne: 53:01
I believe it though.

Trent Manning: 53:02
Yeah. If it’s not, I would hate to see the other ones. I don’t have enough time. Not enough time of the day.

Howard Horne: 53:07
yeah.

Trent Manning: 53:08
So the next day we end up, going to PGA Frisco, which is a new course. It’s 36 holes. They got two championship, 18 hole courses and it’s the headquarters of the PGA and the equipment manager there, his name is Bob. Super nice guy. We gave him a hard time about being on the witness protection program with a name like the name like Bob Smith,

Howard Horne: 53:36
Yep.

Trent Manning: 53:37
but, uh, another amazing facility.

Howard Horne: 53:40
Nah, he’s a really, Yeah, he was a really awesome guy

Trent Manning: 53:42
No, he was, yeah, super nice. Super nice.

Howard Horne: 53:45
I really enjoyed, uh, talking to him and being around him and stuff.

Trent Manning: 53:49
Well, I was surprised too, so he hadn’t been in the EM industry that long. He’s been in golf forever, but he was a club fitter

Howard Horne: 53:57
Yeah, he was a Titleist Club fitter. and then he had worked, I guess he had worked construction too, so he’d been around some heavy equipment and stuff and just, uh, really smart guy. Seemed like a really smart guy as far as like fabricating different things.

Trent Manning: 54:15
Mm.

Howard Horne: 54:15
Like he’s the type of guy that could seem like he could fabricate almost anything. just a really down to earth guy, It seemed like he’d be a really easy guy to work for. Really good guy to work for.

Trent Manning: 54:25
when he said what really got him there is he just wanted to work at that property and didn’t really care what he was doing. He just wanted a job at that club.

Howard Horne: 54:34
yeah. Because he went in as a, just an assistant in the shop or something, and the guy, I guess they originally put in that position ended up leaving and he just kind of fell right into it, you know?

Trent Manning: 54:50
Yeah. It’s amazing how things like that, work out. You put yourself in, in the right place and who knows what might happen, and one of the first rooms he showed us in his shot was the Milwaukee.

Howard Horne: 55:01
Oh

Trent Manning: 55:02
I guess Milwaukee is trying to get into the golf market, so they’re giving him a bunch of the prototype equipment to use on or try out on the golf course, and all the modular stuff that they have were, you know, it’s easy to store and a whole metal cabinet full of chargers and batteries and blowers, and that was

Howard Horne: 55:25
I was really impressed with that whole area, that whole Milwaukee, room there full of all that stuff, And the, the blowers that he, the little handheld blowers, they were actually pretty powerful. the little handheld, the handheld, blowers that he had in there, in the cabinet, actually took two of the M 18 batteries on it. and they were, they were pretty powerful.

Trent Manning: 55:47
and that’s what’s cool about their stuff is it all uses the same battery. Doesn’t matter what it is

Howard Horne: 55:52
yeah.

Trent Manning: 55:53
that I thought that was really neat.

Howard Horne: 55:55
Yeah, he had a lot of their stuff around, know, not only in that room, but in the shop in general with their packout stuff. the little plates you can mount on the wall for all the packout equipment and all was really nice. I’m actually looking at doing some of that in my shop too, since I seen some of his stuff that he had like, for putting his drills up in and all that stuff. He had behind his welding area there and stuff.

Trent Manning: 56:20
Yeah. No, I really liked the tool. Yeah, the tool storage up on the wall. That was really neat. The. and I don’t, Is that available? Had you looked into that yet?

Howard Horne: 56:32
Yes, a lot of that stuff right there was available. all that packout stuff is, Yep. So all that stuff is all available. Because I, I actually went to their website and looked at a lot of that stuff to see if some of that stuff was available, you know?

Trent Manning: 56:46
Yeah. So nice shop all in all, I mean, two lifts in there and he’s uh, I think still kinda getting it the way he wants it.

Howard Horne: 56:55
Yeah. It wasn’t all the way completed yet for sure. cause the walls and some of the walls and stuff weren’t painted yet or anything, so it’s a work in progress for him. Cause they’re not even open yet,

Trent Manning: 57:06
Right? The course I think was open for play, but the club’s.

Howard Horne: 57:11
Yeah. And the course was only open for play, for PGA members and some other guests and stuff not actually open to the public.

Trent Manning: 57:20
Right, Right,

Howard Horne: 57:21
yeah, cuz I don’t think they open until maybe April of next

Trent Manning: 57:24
right. Yeah, it was a ways off. It sounded like, his tool storage was really cool like that he had, uh, foam inserts and all the drawers, and so, you know what wrench goes where, what socket goes where. That was a, a good setup.

Howard Horne: 57:40
Yeah. And there were all special order boxes done in Toro Red, all the boxes.

Trent Manning: 57:45
Yep. Since they’re all Toro, it was something, I guess PGA and Toro worked out, so all his shelves were red, all the bins were red. I mean, everything they had was Toro red.

Howard Horne: 57:59
Yep.

Trent Manning: 58:00
I was kinda cool. Set up. Another thing that I really liked, and I hadn’t seen it at another club before, is he had pipe fittings in bins just like you would see at the hardware store. And that would be so dang handy because you’re always needing a pipe fitting for something. And it’s not irrigation, but just around the shop, whatever airline, you know, Waterline always needing a pipe fitting. And I thought that was a pretty good idea. I like the way he had his, uh, ties stored and some drawers, heavy duty metal drawers. Thought that was a good way to store Tys

Howard Horne: 58:39
really nice organized shop and stuff too, with his, course he had the, the seven foot tall, uh, port, that was the largest damn port I think I’ve ever seen

Trent Manning: 58:50
Yeah, that was a Texas size porta. Cool. I guess biggest one I ever seen too. That thing was massive.

Howard Horne: 58:57
yeah.

Trent Manning: 58:58
And then we moved on over to the Kim room, another amazing setup with all, they kept all their sprayers in there. They had, uh, overflow. So if anything was spill that got pumped back in the sprayer. Huge mix tanks.

Howard Horne: 59:15
I was really impressed with that. This room here, the, the chem, the chemical room and spray, storage room and everything with the overhead fills and what, they have five sprayers in there.

Trent Manning: 59:26
Yeah. Yeah. It was a big, big.

Howard Horne: 59:28
yeah. Fit five sprayers inside of their, so that was, yeah, it was a nice, nice, very nice duns, chemical room and stuff. All overhead, overhead fill for them. Two big mix tanks, fill in and fill, everything up. yeah, it was a really nice spray.

Trent Manning: 59:47
Yeah, I definitely, uh, have sharing some of these ideas with my director of agronomy, get, getting him all excited about that stuff. And then from there we moved on into, uh, equipment, cold storage and we should have walked it off, but this was a huge building. Huge,

Howard Horne: 1:00:05
big building.

Trent Manning: 1:00:06
huge. They kept all their small tools in there, hand tools and blowers and weed eaters and wheelbarrows and all that kind of stuff. Kinda on one end of it. And then everything else, all their, uh, walking mowers and carts and fairway mowers, Air fires. Yeah, just ton of equipment. And then the Toro outcross, which

Howard Horne: 1:00:32
five of

Trent Manning: 1:00:33
Yeah. And they said it kind of started because they couldn’t get John Deere tractors.

Howard Horne: 1:00:39
Yep.

Trent Manning: 1:00:40
and that was the first time I’d seen a outros really up close. I think I seen one of the show and thought, you know, what the heck is that? You know there’s enough tractors in the world. What is Toro doing? Trying to make a tractor? But after Bob explained how it worked, it sounds really. That you program the outro to what implement you’re using and it will lower at a certain speed. It iles the engine down, it turns on the pto, it revs the engine back up, lowers the implement all by hitting one switch.

Howard Horne: 1:01:16
Yep. One lever. Yeah.

Trent Manning: 1:01:19
I really like the sound of that because I’ve been on a tractor plenty of times and you’re moving 15 different levers and switches and trying to get started.

Howard Horne: 1:01:29
A lot easier to train somebody using the outro and a lot safer to use, I would say, than somebody new on a tractor. cuz definitely a lot less to, to manipulate moving around and all that kind of stuff on the outros than be a tractor hauling something, going up and down a hill or whatever. definitely a lot better for a new operator to train somebody on the outros than a tractor for sure. than that cedar they had that was on the outside. I guess they named it after the, uh, the director there. Roger wasn’t his name. Roger?

Trent Manning: 1:02:03
his name was, yeah, Roger. And I think he’s like the only employee of PGA that’s there. And everybody else works for Omni Hotels.

Howard Horne: 1:02:12
Omni. Yep.

Trent Manning: 1:02:14
but yeah, that Cedar was really cool cuz you can hook it to a skidsteer on one end and the other end had a three point hitch where you could hook it to a tractor and is, uh, ground driven. And yeah, they said it was Roger’s favorite tool, I guess, for doing native areas

Howard Horne: 1:02:31
So they had stickers on both sides. Sides of it that said Roger

Trent Manning: 1:02:35
And I, I think they used their $5,000 label maker to put those stickers on.

Howard Horne: 1:02:43
Yeah. yeah, That was the most expensive label maker I ever seen.

Trent Manning: 1:02:48
yeah. What, four inch labels or something like that? Yeah. Crazy.

Howard Horne: 1:02:54
Yep.

Trent Manning: 1:02:55
So we checked out their, uh, break room too, and they got a really big crew. I don’t remember what their crew size was, but huge break room. Really nice. Of course it’s brand new too, so

Howard Horne: 1:03:06
Yep. Big break room.

Trent Manning: 1:03:08
nice and clean and area for the assistance. And then, Assistant area is complete unless it has a drone. So they did have their own drone hanging up on the wall in the assistance area.

Howard Horne: 1:03:22
Yep.

Trent Manning: 1:03:23
And then they had a, a huge artificial section just outside their shop there. And I heard that was for the Texas chapter of the PGA and be like a little practice facility for them. And then, wasn’t it Texas a and m that had all the test plots?

Howard Horne: 1:03:40
Yeah. Yeah. So yeah, Texas and Em had a lot of test plots there by their shop. I guess it, I think it was Al Zoia maybe.

Trent Manning: 1:03:49
That sounds right. I think it was all kind of different varieties of zoia that they’re doing work on.

Howard Horne: 1:03:55
I.

Trent Manning: 1:03:56
And that was just like right out, right behind the shop.

Howard Horne: 1:03:59
Yeah. Yep. Right behind. Yeah, right beside the shop there.

Trent Manning: 1:04:03
And then the, the driving range was massive and you could hit from, wasn’t it three directions?

Howard Horne: 1:04:10
yeah, it was crazy and every driving range out there had the tracer technology on it.

Trent Manning: 1:04:18
Oh, that’s right. yeah, yeah, yeah,

Howard Horne: 1:04:20
so every part of the driving range, everywhere you hit from out there had tracer technology,

Trent Manning: 1:04:25
No, that was, that was nuts. Yeah. One, the thing that, uh, made me laugh is they said that the golf pro would come out with you and watch you hit balls as you’re warming up and tell you what course you’re gonna play. Because the one course, the championship course is, 7,800 yards or something like that from the tips and. So Danny McConnell from Bernhardt was with us and he, he said that, uh, after they watched him hit balls, they would say, Okay, you can go straight to the bar. What he would, he let him on either course, and I would probably be in the same boat there too.

Howard Horne: 1:05:04
just go over to the artificial turf little area. You can play over there.

Trent Manning: 1:05:09
Yeah. You, you need to go practice. Well, and they, yeah. They had that whole, uh, and I don’t remember how many holes was out there, but it was lit and you could play it with a

Howard Horne: 1:05:19
a putter. Yeah. It was like a little nine, nine-hole maybe or something, or seven hole. Something like that. Uh, par three course that you could play with a putter.

Trent Manning: 1:05:28
That’s, I mean, if I was gonna play golf, I, I might be the

Howard Horne: 1:05:32
Yeah. Yeah. And it was all lighted and everything so you could do it at night. Yeah, it was really cool.

Trent Manning: 1:05:37
And then we gotta talk about the 70,000 square foot dance floor, putting green

Howard Horne: 1:05:45
Oh

Trent Manning: 1:05:45
that they had.

Howard Horne: 1:05:46
That was Prism, wasn’t it too? Was it Prism?

Trent Manning: 1:05:49
Yeah, I think it was Prism.

Howard Horne: 1:05:52
Massive.

Trent Manning: 1:05:53
Yeah.

Howard Horne: 1:05:54
so there were, That was gonna be for the public also to, to play on, cuz they were gonna be cutting cups out on it. Whatever. I think also too, weren’t they?

Trent Manning: 1:06:03
Yeah. Yeah. So the whole thing, I guess it’s a, it’s a public course and then you can get a membership too if you want to. And then there’s gonna be a ton of retail built right here next to the put and green. And you can come out there and get a beer and putt and do whatever else you want. They got a, a big jumbo trine that they were

Howard Horne: 1:06:24
Big, big Jumbo tron. was it the ice house brewing? Something to do with the Ice house was there too,

Trent Manning: 1:06:32
think so. Yeah. Yeah. And they said

Howard Horne: 1:06:34
green.

Trent Manning: 1:06:35
they uh, they walk mowed the green one time or something, like six hours. to walk mode. One green.

Howard Horne: 1:06:43
I think I’d have quit

Trent Manning: 1:06:44
Yeah. Yeah. That turn in my resignation right now.

Howard Horne: 1:06:50
put two walk mowers on that thing. That’s all they did all day long. So what’d you do today? Uh, walk Mowed the dance floor.

Trent Manning: 1:06:55
Uhhuh. Yeah. That was nuts. But beautiful course. And unlike most of Texas, we saw it actually had some rolling heels, some

Howard Horne: 1:07:08
it really nice piece of property there too. for that, for Texas right there cuz it, yeah, it had some character to it. Had some rolling hills and. Yes. And it, the way they done everything was really neat because everything was mowed. Like the tea areas kind of just made right into everything else. so everything was mowed at one height around the tee area, and you really couldn’t tell where the tee areas were that good. I mean, you could kind of see the flat spots of the tea areas, but there was no like definition, rough around the tee area. It was all owed at one height. So it was like, some of their tea areas were massive. and so it was really cool the way they did that. And, the new, what was it? North Ridge, wasn’t that the

Trent Manning: 1:07:54
Yeah, I don’t, Yeah, Northbridge, Northbridge.

Howard Horne: 1:07:58
Yeah, something like that was, yeah, that was pretty cool. That’s the first time I even heard of that or even seen any of that, Bermuda grass they had there.

Trent Manning: 1:08:06
It was beautiful though.

Howard Horne: 1:08:07
It was really, especially for that, as dry as they had been. And the color of that grass was really cool cuz it was just, it almost looked like you had been spraying it with a pigment or something like it was painted, but it wasn’t, it was just the, just the color of the, the greenish color of that it had was different from a lot of the Bermuda grasses.

Trent Manning: 1:08:30
Yeah. It, it had a great color to it.

Howard Horne: 1:08:33
He had Zoia Fairways too, didn’t he?

Trent Manning: 1:08:35
No, I think it was pretty much wall to wall that Bermuda

Howard Horne: 1:08:39
Oh, was it?

Trent Manning: 1:08:40
ever. Yeah. I’m pretty sure everything out there was Bermuda and then what? The greens were Bermuda. What was it?

Howard Horne: 1:08:46
Eagle.

Trent Manning: 1:08:47
Yeah, Tiff Eagle.

Howard Horne: 1:08:48
Yep. Yeah, they were Tiff Eagle. Yeah. A lot of, lot of retail buildings out there. The, what was it, a 400 or 500 room hotel?

Trent Manning: 1:08:58
Yeah, I think I heard 500 room hotel. That was under construction. That’s right there next to the course. And then I don’t

Howard Horne: 1:09:06
five pools or something. Six pools or something crazy.

Trent Manning: 1:09:09
Yeah, yeah. Crazy number of pools. Of course, if you’re in Texas you probably need a pool cause it was hot out there. It was even hot out there. The day we were there

Howard Horne: 1:09:18
yeah,

Trent Manning: 1:09:18
got pretty warm and then kind of behind the property they had, they were all kind of residential stuff going in there. And then I think the city of Frisco had that. Road or trail, like through the middle of the course.

Howard Horne: 1:09:33
Yeah. Some kind of like public, trail that had to be open. Cause I guess that was a theme with Frisco there too, as far as them being able to build all this, It had to be open to the public.

Trent Manning: 1:09:44
Yeah. Yeah. That was one of the requirements by

Howard Horne: 1:09:46
Yeah. that doesn’t mean you get to play it for cheap, but

Trent Manning: 1:09:50
city, right? It’s open to the

Howard Horne: 1:09:51
it’s open to the public. It’s just gonna cost you like $400 for a round of golf. But you’re,

Trent Manning: 1:09:56
Yep. You might not be able to afford it, but, Well, yeah. It was a, it was a great experience and I can’t thank you enough for, uh, going,

Howard Horne: 1:10:06
Oh man. No, I,

Trent Manning: 1:10:07
lifetime.

Howard Horne: 1:10:08
I really enjoyed it. I really enjoyed, meeting a lot of them guys and, meeting Tony and meeting Bob and going to see Will’s place and, just, and spending time with you. I mean, I, I enjoy doing that, I enjoy spending time with you and talking with you. I know we talk a lot during the week anyway, but

Trent Manning: 1:10:26
No, it was fun. I mean, it kinda gets us doing what we both love really. Um, you know, and maybe people think it’s sad. I don’t care what you think. we work on a golf course and we’re into golf course operations, and honestly, it makes us better seeing all these different operations, getting all these different ideas, but not even making us better, like you’re saying, meeting Tony and Bob and hanging out with Danny and Mike Raw.

Howard Horne: 1:10:57
yep.

Trent Manning: 1:10:57
mean, there’s a ton of really good people in this industry, and we make a lot of friends doing this too. And honestly, that’s how me and you got to be friends,

Howard Horne: 1:11:09
Yep, yep. Man, it just gives you some more outlets, if you. Can contact somebody that’s been there, done that before, you have, you know, it just gives you more options of people to call. Like if, I mean, you know me, I ain’t afraid to call nobody about anything. I’m gonna call you. I mean, if I can’t figure it out, I’m gonna call somebody. I’m not gonna sit there and waste my time. and you know, just doing things like that, you know, and them having that meeting, there at Tony’s place, I mean that’s, what should be done, is it, that way, guys get more comfortable about doing that and meeting each other and being able to call each other and I mean, cuz there definitely ain’t no shame in it for sure. I mean, we’re all here to help anybody out and I’m welcome to give anybody my number if they wanna call me about anything.

Trent Manning: 1:11:52
Well, everybody I’ve met in this industry is the exact same way.

Howard Horne: 1:11:57
Yep.

Trent Manning: 1:11:58
know, don’t hesitate, reach out, give me a call anytime. And, uh, just like I tell everybody, if I’m knee deep in something, I might not answer, but I’ll call you back,

Howard Horne: 1:12:09
Oh yeah, yeah, yeah, I mean, I really enjoyed it. I thought it was a great time.

Trent Manning: 1:12:14
was, it was, uh, definitely a A trip. A

Howard Horne: 1:12:16
listened, we listened, to a lot of Spotify,

Trent Manning: 1:12:21
Yeah. Yeah. Yep. Kept Spotify busy

Howard Horne: 1:12:24
uh

Trent Manning: 1:12:25
whole trip, and we got, we got in some good comedy stuff

Howard Horne: 1:12:28
oh yeah. Yep, yep. We got in some, some good comedian stuff there.

Trent Manning: 1:12:33
That was fun. Yeah. Corey, he asked what, what, what? We were playing on Spotify.

Howard Horne: 1:12:39
Yeah. Yep.

Trent Manning: 1:12:40
Luckily, I did not make you listen to podcast about doing a podcast.

Howard Horne: 1:12:45
No,

Trent Manning: 1:12:46
I I drew the

Howard Horne: 1:12:47
there. I was the one controlling the, uh, Spotify and the Waze map, so,

Trent Manning: 1:12:52
yeah. No, it was all good, man.

Howard Horne: 1:12:56
Uh,

Trent Manning: 1:12:57
Well, let’s wrap it.

Howard Horne: 1:12:58
well, good man. No, I, like I said, I mean, I appreciate you, you know, letting me ride along with you and, I’m definitely want to wanna do it again, you know, when we get the opportunity for sure.

Trent Manning: 1:13:09
Yeah, no, we, we’ll make another opportunity. We ain’t gonna get one. We’ll make one and we’ll definitely, uh, do it again because I don’t, I just love it.

Howard Horne: 1:13:18
yeah,

Trent Manning: 1:13:19
I mean, it’s so much fun

Howard Horne: 1:13:20
that’s part of the business I enjoy really doing, seeing the different places and meeting different people. And so it’s really fun and I really enjoyed, you letting me come along with you and washing your windshield every once in a while,

Trent Manning: 1:13:32
Oh yeah, no, you’ve done an excellent job at Washington Windshields. But one thing I want to point out, and I hadn’t heard this before, but it made a lot of sense. So while we were, I think it was the first couple days when we were on our way out there, I talked to Skip. He’d caught wind that we were in the car and, uh, headed to Texas and he thought that I was gonna look at a job out there or some, I don’t know. I was telling him what we were doing and he said it puts wind in your cell and it’s very true going to different shops and whether it’s just, you know, a shop down the road or whatever, it kind of does put wind in your sail and kind of motivates you to, to get outta your comfort zone and try some different things cuz it’s so easy for us being in our own little world and our own little shop, however many days a year that we’re there, literally grinding away. So to get out and see some different things, it helps motivate.

Howard Horne: 1:14:29
Yeah, it does. I mean, it, it gives you that. when you go to these other shops and you see, what they look like and the ideas that they’ve done, you take some of them ideas back, it kind of gives you a little boost in your step again, cuz when you’re in the business, when you’re in the industry this long, as you know me or you or some other guys are, you’ll eventually lose some of that, upbeat in your step.

Trent Manning: 1:14:52
Oh yeah. Yep.

Howard Horne: 1:14:53
but kind of re it’s kinda like he said, it puts the wind in you so it’s kind of remotivate you to, to get back to your shop and, start making some changes, start improving some things and, so it’s really, yeah, it’s really good to do that. cuz you can, you can get still for sure.

Trent Manning: 1:15:08
Yeah. No, it, it is easy. When you get in a rut there.

Howard Horne: 1:15:12
Yep.

Trent Manning: 1:15:13
Well, thank you Howard for, uh, being on the podcast again, and thank you so much for going with me on this trip.

Howard Horne: 1:15:20
Nope. Enjoyed it. Anytime.

Trent Manning: 1:15:27
thank you so much for listening to the Reel turf techs podcast. I hope you learned something today. Don’t forget to subscribe. If you have any topics you’d like to discuss, or you’d like to be a guest, find us on Twitter at Reel turf techs.

 

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